I am also in favor of marking up books this way, although I don't think the responsibility should be exclusively on the validator. I primarily scan and I read every page of the books I submit. Marking up the book as I scan would be cake--as long as we can agree on a standard for doing it. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Belville" <lisab12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pre-marking RTF files Hi, Carrie. I think this is a good idea, and I wouldn't mind doing it, provided the codes are uniform for specific sections of the book.. The only issues would be yet more learning for those new to validating and new to computers. It will also reinforce why validators need to read every page of a book they validate. I'm still downloading books marked excellent that have headers and areas of garbled text. So, while having a system in place to mark specific sections in a book is a good one, it's only going to work as well as the validator. Lisa If you can't convince them, confuse them. Lisa Belville lisab12@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie Karnos To: Bookshare Vol Group Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:10 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] pre-marking RTF files Hi gang, Okay, here's the situation. In the future, Bookshare wants to add markers to RTF files, to pre-mark various parts of books. There would be markers that mean "this is the start of a chapter", "this is a picture caption", "this is an appendix", that sort of thing. Naturally we're wondering if volunteers could add in these markers to their books. {There are markers in MS Word, like Heading 1, Heading 2, that could be used, except that not everyone uses MS Word, and it's a bit confusing to use them anyway.) The markers in the RTF files would be used to generate DAISY markers, thus enabling better navigation of DAISY books. So the big question to everyone is: is there a markup scheme that everyone would be willing to put into their RTF files? If Bookshare said that 4 colons in a row means "this is the start of a chapter", how many people would actually add 4 colons at the start of each chapter? It would be great if Bookshare could look at a book and figure out where the front matter starts and stops, where the text starts and stops, where the chapters, figures, tables, indices, bibiliographies, etc all start and stop, but it's actually a very difficult process. So we're hoping that if we can get even a few volunteers to add markers to their files, it would make life that much easier. As you can tell, I'm just sending a flag up a flagpole and seeing if anyone salutes. What does everyone think of adding markers to RTF files? Thanks for your many and varied opinions! Carrie To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.