I wouldn't mind putting in markers at all. I do some of this anyway when I read or validate a book: marking page 1 to separate the front matter, marking each chapter or story whenever possible for easier navigation. However, you mentioned using four colons to represent the start of a chapter as a possibility. I would prefer linguistically meaningful codes like {chapter} rather than codes that a validator would have to remember or look up. Frankly, I find using headings and bookmarks in ms word both confusing and time consuming. But wouldn't mind putting in codes that are meaningful to a bookshare tool. Just my thoughts. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie Karnos To: Bookshare Vol Group Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:10 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] pre-marking RTF files Hi gang, Okay, here's the situation. In the future, Bookshare wants to add markers to RTF files, to pre-mark various parts of books. There would be markers that mean "this is the start of a chapter", "this is a picture caption", "this is an appendix", that sort of thing. Naturally we're wondering if volunteers could add in these markers to their books. {There are markers in MS Word, like Heading 1, Heading 2, that could be used, except that not everyone uses MS Word, and it's a bit confusing to use them anyway.) The markers in the RTF files would be used to generate DAISY markers, thus enabling better navigation of DAISY books. So the big question to everyone is: is there a markup scheme that everyone would be willing to put into their RTF files? If Bookshare said that 4 colons in a row means "this is the start of a chapter", how many people would actually add 4 colons at the start of each chapter? It would be great if Bookshare could look at a book and figure out where the front matter starts and stops, where the text starts and stops, where the chapters, figures, tables, indices, bibiliographies, etc all start and stop, but it's actually a very difficult process. So we're hoping that if we can get even a few volunteers to add markers to their files, it would make life that much easier. As you can tell, I'm just sending a flag up a flagpole and seeing if anyone salutes. What does everyone think of adding markers to RTF files? Thanks for your many and varied opinions! Carrie