[bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:31:43 -0400
I would definitely NOT lose the italics. Currently, braille files aren't
showing them, but they will, hopefully someday, do so; that is, if the books
are reprocessed from the original rtf files. Frankly, I am doubtful that
this will ever happen, but who knows?
I'm not sure what shows up in the Daisy files, but if bold or italics are
there, those who listen to them in K1000 should hear them because it uses
voice changes to indicate bold, italicized or underlined text.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
>I just came back to the list and I missed the beginning of this
> conversation. I always retain italics. Is it fruitless to retain them?
> Is this what I'm hearing? What about words that are in bold type?
> Sorry if I missed the answer.
> Devorah
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of EVAN REESE
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:07 PM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
>
> There is a method for indicating italicized and nonitalicized text in
> braille, but Bookshare's brf books aren't doing it.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:08 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
>
>
>> To a sighted reader it does indicate emphasis or, in the case of
> personal
>> letters written, or notes written from one person to another,it makes
> it
>> more realistic, if one can say that--and sometimes, as in Penduli,
> which I
>> just finished validating, it indicates a person's thoughts vis-a-vis
> what
>> he/she is saying.
>>
>> I can't think offhand of all the used to which italics are used--I
> think
>> those are the main ones. Sometimes newspaper articles within a story
> are
>> given in italics, but I don't think that's essential; it would
> probably be
>> just as clear to a sighted reader if it were indented and in quotation
>
>> marks.
>>
>> I assume when I validate that Jaws or Daisy or whatever is audio--I
> still
>> don't have the various technologies straight in my mind, though it was
>
>> explained once--emphasizes the italics in speech, or somehow reads it
>> differently, though you just said that JAWS didn't, so I must be
> confused.
>> And I thought someone posted that braille differentiates italics, but
>
>> that wasn't your question. smile
>>
>> G.Cindy
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 10:29 PM
>>> Thank you but that's not the problem or the question. I
>>> have sighted help
>>> and have copied the sentence. My question is, this is going
>>> to make a real
>>> change in the print copy so the sighted reader (dyslexic
>>> etc.) will miss the
>>> way it looks in the book entirely. This is why I am asking
>>> how others are
>>> dealing with this issue. But thanks again for your offer.
>>> You know I won't
>>> hesitate to ask you for help when I need it; you are always
>>> so generous.
>>> Jill
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Grandma Cindy"
>>> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:29 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: italics
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > What is the book, Jill? If I can get it, I can send
>>> you the sentence
>>> > italicized.
>>> >
>>> > G.Cindy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Jill O'Connell
>>> <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From: Jill O'Connell
>>> <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] italics
>>> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 3:55 PM
>>> >> I have been following the discussion on the list
>>> about
>>> >> making italics but
>>> >> have done nothing about it so far; this is partly
>>> because
>>> >> Kurzweil does such
>>> >> a good job reading them and although it would be
>>> nice, I
>>> >> didn't think it was
>>> >> all that important making the italics available in
>>> braille
>>> >> since they
>>> >> wouldn't be shown in the speech version
>>> either. Now,
>>> >> however, I am
>>> >> confronted with an example that Kurzweil can't
>>> read and
>>> >> it's fairly long. I
>>> >> can retype it but, of course, the effect will be
>>> lost for
>>> >> the sighted
>>> >> reader. I would really welcome being told what
>>> others are
>>> >> doing in similar
>>> >> situations. I think it is virtually impossible to
>>> >> accommodate the three
>>> >> readinggroups who use Bookshare. I wonder how the
>>> staff
>>> >> doing scanning
>>> >> would handle this situation. Any comments would be
>>> welcome.
>>> >> Jill
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