[bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
- From: "Susan Lumpkin" <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:21:54 -0700
I'm just as confused about it, and, in exactly the same way as you are,
Lori!
Susan
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:16 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
I tried to find an old e-mail on this issue, but must have erased it.
As I recall, the manual is incorrect regarding ellipses. In order for them
to appear correctly in braille, an ellipsis in the middle of a sentence
(between words) should have a space before and after it; in other words, an
ellipsis between words is treated as a word.
What confuses me now though is how an ellipsis appears at the beginning or
end of a sentence. I thought that when an ellipsis appeared at the
beginning of a sentnece there was no space between the ellipsis and the word
that follows it. I thought that when an ellipsis appeared at the end of a
sentence that there was not a space between the final word of the sentence
and the ellipsis. From what Mayrie says, I am incorrect.
I wish the manual would be corrected and state clearly how we are to deal
with ellipses.
Lori C.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy <mailto:popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
Kes, I was surprised, too. I've been replacing ellipses with spaces between
and before and after them with ellipses with no spaces at all. Hopefully
someone will clear this up for both of us. I'd like to do whatever is best
for both Braille readers and people who listen to their books (is that Daisy
readers?)
Cindy
--- On Sun, 5/22/11, Kestrell <kestrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Kestrell <kestrell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 7:08 AM
So there is supposed to be a space before and after the ellipsis? I could
swear that I read in the volunteer scanning documentation that all spaces
were supposed to be eliminated. Perhaps I misunderstood what was meant by
"all"?
Kestrell
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:47 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
Thanks, Valerie;
Cindy
--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 9:33 PM
There is another quirky arrow (not just a straight line), called an optional
hyphen, and those you DO delete. Maybe those are what you are thinking of
or have seen, Cindy. I would be interested in learning how it is identified
in Braille or by speech.
Valerie
On May 21, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Cindy wrote:
I never knew what those little arows were; I though maybe paragraph symbols
so I just deleted them, and there didn't seem to be any problem with wha
remained.
Cindy
--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:08 PM
I am thinking the right pointing error is a tab, and would be replaced by a
space unless you want your material formatted as a table, then it can be
used for creation of a table.
If you are in Word and not wanting to make a table, do a find and replace by
putting ^t in the first box and a single space in the second.
HTH!
Valerie
On May 21, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Jamie Yates, CPhT wrote:
The right pointing arrows are something you need to eliminate. In word you
just replace all of the ^l with a space, unless it's truly where a paragraph
ends then you replace it with ^p.
But usually it's a temporary line break so that it looks like the print
book, but is very annoying in braille and needs to be eliminated.
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