Hi Charisma! Indices are evil! I can't stand them! I truly feel your pain! And the index is not core content, so you can, if you want to, just leave the index alone and let it stand as is. As to your paragraph marks, many of the ones you note NEED to be there. You want them at the end of lines in the index. You want them everywhere you'd put a carriage return. You DON'T want to eliminate paragraph marks altogether!!!! In case that's what you're thinking. If you did that, there would be absolutely no paragraphs in your book at all! Can you imagine trying to read a book that had no paragraphing? Uh, did I say to check every single instance of a paragraph mark? Shoot me for that! Only a truly demented person would do that without reading the book! It'd kill you, or cause you to do said to someone else? Did you get the message with my find and replace thingy (long thingy) at the bbottom under my signature? Is that the thing that you tried? You do want to keep paragraph marks, just where they belong,. Where you would normally place a carriage return. Those arrow things that you are seeing? I have no idea what they are. Were it me, I'd find them, select/highlight one, the first one in the book, and use the find and replace dialogue to get rid of them by replacing with nothing, unless you see some purpose that they serve. I would do this for our braille readers of bookshare books. Often strange symbols do not translate into braille and cause mysterious things to be inserted in their place, so I'd get rid of them unless you see that they serve some purpose. Does any of this help? If not, keep asking! We'll help you! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charisma Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:11 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] did Mayrie's thing now more questions Hi all, I just took about 25 sample pages from a loooong book, including the front matter, a few text pages, some back matter notes, and the index. The results are interesting. It looks better. I can see why I have thousands of paragraph marks: I've always been replacing all line marks with paragraph marks according to something I read (or likely misread) in the Birds and Bees practice book. So that mystery is solved. So doing what Mayrie said I laboriously went through all the pages and made decisions about every line break. That would have taken forEVER for the 255 book but that aside, if that is what it is gonna take, that is what it is going to take. There are some right-pointing arrows in the table of contents I cannot figure out. There were there before and after Mayrie's process, so nothing was caused or fixed by that process. Are these arrows a problem? Also, it was quite puzzling how to handle the Index. It is a wicked index to start with, just a huge mess. It is so thorough that it has entries with indented entries beneath them and some with even indented beneath them! I did not know how to handle that paragraph and line wise so I left them to come to ask. Can I mention that I officially abhor this index and that was BEFORE I did this process. Now I am up to loathing it with a passion. lol Finally, I am left with a significant number of paragraph marks anyhow. They appear: -everywhere time I did a return (for example, to get aline before a page number, after a page number, etc.) -everywhere there was truly a paragraph break -everywhere a note or new word entry in the glossary ended -all the heck over the index, interspersed with evil little line breaks Feedback? THANKS! Charisma P.S. have questions about ellipses and bolds but putting in a separate post to keep things straight To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.