Wonderful. Many thanks, Mayrie. I hope you get a lot of rest today and feel better. I'm going to start on Cry of the Wind as soon as I fix up World we Have Lost (and 'm going to do that just with a spellcheck and pagination check, so it should go quickly. Cindy --- On Sun, 5/22/11, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 1:33 PM Hi Cindy, I found an old book that had em dashes, from the era when I didn't know I needed to change them to two hyphens, and it now has two hyphens. Then, I uploaded a new book with em dashes and they too were handled correctly. Mayrie From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:06 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions Thanks for that info about em dashes no longer needing to be converted to 2 dashes. though it's an easy find and replace all, it's one less thing to do, and every second counts smile Cindy--how did you test it? find a book in the collection? (just curious) --- On Sun, 5/22/11, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 12:52 AM Hi Bob, Optional hyphens are not em dashes. Optional hyphens are hyphens that were in the print book when a line on the page ended, but didn't need a hyphen at that point otherwise. And em dashes no longer need to be converted to double hyphens. I tested it and it's true. Mayrie From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:02 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions I thought you converted optional hyphens (—) to two dashes (--). Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie Maples To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:33 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions There is another quirky arrow (not just a straight line), called an optional hyphen, and those you DO delete. Maybe those are what you are thinking of or have seen, Cindy. I would be interested in learning how it is identified in Braille or by speech. Valerie On May 21, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Cindy wrote: I never knew what those little arows were; I though maybe paragraph symbols so I just deleted them, and there didn't seem to be any problem with wha remained. Cindy --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:08 PM I am thinking the right pointing error is a tab, and would be replaced by a space unless you want your material formatted as a table, then it can be used for creation of a table. If you are in Word and not wanting to make a table, do a find and replace by putting ^t in the first box and a single space in the second. HTH! Valerie On May 21, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Jamie Yates, CPhT wrote: The right pointing arrows are something you need to eliminate. In word you just replace all of the ^l with a space, unless it's truly where a paragraph ends then you replace it with ^p. But usually it's a temporary line break so that it looks like the print book, but is very annoying in braille and needs to be eliminated.