[bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Let me add that what Kim really needs is an in-person instructor, but I 
have been and am still in pretty much the same situation of having to teach 
oneself. It can be done, but it can also be torturous. I would suggest tackling 
that manual one little piece at a time. Pick out one of the basics and read 
it over and over and try to follow the instructions precisely while asking 
questions on this list when getting stuck. You will find that knowledge 
builds on knowledge. That is, once you learn something you will have a little 
bit more understanding when you start to learn the next thing.

                                                                            
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Hi, Kim, 

Actually for the most part scanning is just as effortless as your family 
thinks it is. 

I use Openbook, not Kurtzweil, so there may be some settings that would 
help you; I hope Kurzweil users will comment. 

Also, with the Cannon most books lay on the flatbed, but it may be 
necessary to scan one page at a time. 

I did use Kurtzweil at work many years ago, but did not do books or 
anything I would want to keep. 

Why don't you either start with justa letter, a short document or a short 
book to see how it goes.  Once you have done some scanning, you will better 
know
what questions to ask. 

With encouragement,

Lori C. 

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From: 
Kim Friedman 

To: 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:27 AM

Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Hi, Lori, what intimidates me is that I've never had a scanner before and I 
don't know the first thing about scanning anything. I have stuff that might
be wider than the scanner's bed. Will the book still scan in that case? 
When I got Kurzweil 1000 version 11.0, I called the Tech Support folks and they
helped me set up Kurzweil and I've read some of the manual, but manuals and 
me don't get along, I.e., I hear what I'm reading, but whatever knowledge 
that
is there isn't absorbed by me as it goes right over my head. I am not the 
greatest problem solver in the world and have no idea of the questions I 
ought
to be asking and resolving to scan something. I have family members who 
assume that all one does is slap something down on the scanner, it scans 
automatically,
Kurzweil reads it automatically, and voila! instant images ready to be 
read, etc. I'm wondering if it's really all that simple. I've never seen 
anything
in my life, so have no way to gauge what's occurring. Let's face it, I'm 
scared. I know it's irrational and unreasonable, but there it is. I don't know
anybody living nearby who can walk me through using the thing. That's It 
pure and simple. I've put something on the scanner and have apparently had no
results due to my total lack of knowledge, possible non-willingness to 
persevere, and fear. Regards, Kim the scannerphobe.  

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:21 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Kim what intimidates you about the cannon scanner?  My husband uses one and 
has had very good luck. 

Lori C. 

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Kim Friedman 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:15 AM

Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Hi, Monica, if you are interested The Cake Bible is in the NLS program.  In 
fact, I got the recording and duplicated it for my personal use. Rose Levy 
Beranbaum
has other cookbooks and one of them is The Pastry Bible. I think her books 
may be tough because her ingredients lists are written using weight 
measurements
as well as the cups and spoons measurements we're used to. Along with that, 
she uses sidebars which have commentary. I imagine there are a lot of 
illustrations
in her books. I have heard of Taste of Home, but haven't read the magazines 
they produce. I'm getting Bon Appétit and I used to get Gourmet. I have 
found
some neat cookbooks. I've got some cookbooks in print that I'd definitely 
love to see in the Bookshare collection. I have a Canon LIDE90 scanner but am
unsure and intimidated about using it. It's a flatbed scanner and is longer 
than it is wide. It's sitting there on my desk and is plugged into the 
computer
with a USB cable. Anyhow, thanks for writing back. Regards, Kim.

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Willyard
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:31 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Kim, you and I have similar interests in cookbooks. (smile) I'd like to see 
the list of cookbooks you'd like to have access to. I can help with 
scanning
if they are at my library. I also have just been given a stack of cookbooks 
today, and I'll work on adding those too. Many of them are from Better 
Homes
and Gardens or Taste Of Home. I don't know how well they'll scan. The Taste 
Of Home books seem to be doing well so far. The Better Homes and Gardens 
books
are thinner but are also done in columns. I'll tackle one soon and see how 
well it works out. 

I did send a book called The Cake Bible to the Bookshare office with the 
hope that Carrie's proofreaders could work on it. I don't know if they are 
able
to process it though. I hope so because there are a lot of good cake 
recipes in there. My mom used to read it to me. 

Monica Willyard

"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker 

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:08 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Hi, Monica, I thank you for your message. This stuff, needless to say, is 
unknown territory to me. The stuff I found on amazon.com vary in date, but 
I'll
bet you some of them are definitely of recent vintage (not sure though). I 
thought these would be a change from the usual Weight Watcher stuff of 
which Bookshare
seems to have a great amount. I like ethnic cookbooks and seem to be gravit
ating to cookbooks about desserts and baking, if only for making me 
imagine how
those desserts might taste. (I'm getting hungry just thinking about this 
stuff.) I am not saying there shouldn't be books on health, diet, and 
nutrition,
but I lean towards the straight cookbook that concerns itself with what 
people eat in a particular cuisine, how to get the ingredients, cooking 
methods,
history of cooking in that cuisine, and (I hope) lovely delicious recipe 
instructions that make me wish I were eating what I'm reading about. Would 
anybody
like me to go into amazon.com and I can send the names of cookbooks that 
I'm interested in seeing at bookshare, both the ones on my shopping cart (to 
be
bought later) and those on my wish list? I think if anyone is interested in 
this I should send the lists directly to interested parties on the 
Bookshare
volunteer discussion list. Also they might write me off list so nobody gets 
in trouble. Regards, Kim.  
ksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Willyard
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:36 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Hi Kim and Jamie. For what it's worth, I've found that many cookbooks from 
the 80s and early 90s scan better than brand new cookbooks. I think that's 
because
they were using computers with more standard fonts, and they tend to use 
real fractions instead of the half symbol in ingredient lists. Cookbooks from
the 60s, on the other hand, don't scan so well because they often use a 
font that is sort of decorative or like handwriting, and the paper has 
yellowed.
The Frugal Gourmet books from the late 80s scanned very well. I wish I 
still had them to submit. I scanned them back when I was using DOS when I 
scanned
them in 1991, and they were almost flawless. I couldn't convert them when I 
started using Windows, and that means scanning them from scratch. I got 
them
from my local library. That means I can get them again. I just need some 
vacation time to do more scanning. The Frugal Gourmet Cooks With Wine is my 
favorite
in that series. Oh no! Now I've made myself hungry from thinking about the 
Italian gravy recipe in that book.  

Monica Willyard

"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker 

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