[bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

I went online to see if the K scanner looks like any scanner and I saw the user 
manual.

I would suggest downloading it--maybe printing it, and, following it one step 
at a time.
I find manuals difficult to read unless I do that, i.e., read one instruction 
and actually do it, then go on to the next.

Is the scanner a flatbed scanner like the Epson.

I do one page at a time (I have no choice. I open the book to the page I want 
to scan,n and place the book so that the bottoms of the pages is at the bottom 
of the scanner bed,. Depending on the width of the book, I usually place the 
outside of pages so they're at the edge of the scanner, with a little space so 
no words of sentences will be cut off. I don't use put the binding part at the 
edge because it's harder to get that at the exact right place so words off 
sentences won't be cut. Then you press the book, especially at the binding, 
firmly onto the bed so everything will be scanned. other wise the pages near 
the spine aren't on the scanner bed and don't get scanned.

I don't know about the Krzweill, but most software programs that some with 
scanners have a preview. button. with my epson and Fine reader program, I push 
that, see what I've got, adjust the box lines around the page so that all tghe 
print is visible and notgher is cut off, and then hit scan.

hopefully, as Lori says soomeone more familiar with Kurzweill will step in 
here. smile





--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:07 PM
> Let me add that what Kim
> really needs is an in-person instructor, but I have been and
> am still in pretty much the same situation of having to
> teach oneself. It can be done, but it can also be torturous.
> I would suggest tackling that manual one little piece at a
> time. Pick out one of the basics and read it over and over
> and try to follow the instructions precisely while asking
> questions on this list when getting stuck. You will find
> that knowledge builds on knowledge. That is, once you learn
> something you will have a little bit more understanding when
> you start to learn the next thing.
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> 10/27/2009 2:47:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time  
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> Hi, Kim, 
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> Actually for the most part scanning is just as effortless
> as your family thinks it is. 
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> I use Openbook, not Kurtzweil, so there may be some
> settings that would help you; I hope Kurzweil users will
> comment. 
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> Also, with the Cannon most books lay on the flatbed, but it
> may be necessary to scan one page at a time. 
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> I did use Kurtzweil at work many years ago, but did not do
> books or anything I would want to keep. 
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> 
> Why don't you either start with justa letter, a short
> document or a short book to see how it goes.  Once you have
> done some scanning, you will better know
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> what questions to ask. 
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> With encouragement,
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> Lori C. 
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> From: 
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> Kim Friedman 
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> To: 
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> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:27 AM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
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> Hi, Lori, what intimidates me is that I've never had a
> scanner before and I don't know the first thing about
> scanning anything. I have stuff that might
> 
> be wider than the scanner's bed. Will the book still
> scan in that case? When I got Kurzweil 1000 version 11.0, I
> called the Tech Support folks and they
> 
> helped me set up Kurzweil and I've read some of the
> manual, but manuals and me don't get along, I.e., I hear
> what I'm reading, but whatever knowledge that
> 
> is there isn't absorbed by me as it goes right over my
> head. I am not the greatest problem solver in the world and
> have no idea of the questions I ought
> 
> to be asking and resolving to scan something. I have family
> members who assume that all one does is slap something down
> on the scanner, it scans automatically,
> 
> Kurzweil reads it automatically, and voila! instant images
> ready to be read, etc. I'm wondering if it's really
> all that simple. I've never seen anything
> 
> in my life, so have no way to gauge what's occurring.
> Let's face it, I'm scared. I know it's
> irrational and unreasonable, but there it is. I don't
> know
> 
> anybody living nearby who can walk me through using the
> thing. That's It pure and simple. I've put something
> on the scanner and have apparently had no
> 
> results due to my total lack of knowledge, possible
> non-willingness to persevere, and fear. Regards, Kim the
> scannerphobe.  
> 
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Lori Castner
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:21 AM
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> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
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> 
> Kim what intimidates you about the cannon scanner?  My
> husband uses one and has had very good luck. 
> 
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> Lori C. 
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> From: 
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> Kim Friedman 
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> To: 
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:15 AM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
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> Hi, Monica, if you are interested The Cake Bible is in the
> NLS program.  In fact, I got the recording and duplicated
> it for my personal use. Rose Levy Beranbaum
> 
> has other cookbooks and one of them is The Pastry Bible. I
> think her books may be tough because her ingredients lists
> are written using weight measurements
> 
> as well as the cups and spoons measurements we're used
> to. Along with that, she uses sidebars which have
> commentary. I imagine there are a lot of illustrations
> 
> in her books. I have heard of Taste of Home, but
> haven't read the magazines they produce. I'm getting
> Bon Appétit and I used to get Gourmet. I have found
> 
> some neat cookbooks. I've got some cookbooks in print
> that I'd definitely love to see in the Bookshare
> collection. I have a Canon LIDE90 scanner but am
> 
> unsure and intimidated about using it. It's a flatbed
> scanner and is longer than it is wide. It's sitting
> there on my desk and is plugged into the computer
> 
> with a USB cable. Anyhow, thanks for writing back. Regards,
> Kim.
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Monica Willyard
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> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:31 PM
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> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
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> Kim, you and I have similar interests in cookbooks. (smile)
> I'd like to see the list of cookbooks you'd like to
> have access to. I can help with scanning
> 
> if they are at my library. I also have just been given a
> stack of cookbooks today, and I'll work on adding those
> too. Many of them are from Better Homes
> 
> and Gardens or Taste Of Home. I don't know how well
> they'll scan. The Taste Of Home books seem to be doing
> well so far. The Better Homes and Gardens books
> 
> are thinner but are also done in columns. I'll tackle
> one soon and see how well it works out. 
> 
> 
> 
> I did send a book called The Cake Bible to the Bookshare
> office with the hope that Carrie's proofreaders could
> work on it. I don't know if they are able
> 
> to process it though. I hope so because there are a lot of
> good cake recipes in there. My mom used to read it to me. 
> 
> 
> 
> Monica Willyard
> 
> 
> 
> "The best way to predict the future is to create
> it." -- Peter Drucker 
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Kim Friedman
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> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:08 PM
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> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
> 
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> 
> Hi, Monica, I thank you for your message. This stuff,
> needless to say, is unknown territory to me. The stuff I
> found on amazon.com vary in date, but I'll
> 
> bet you some of them are definitely of recent vintage (not
> sure though). I thought these would be a change from the
> usual Weight Watcher stuff of which Bookshare
> 
> seems to have a great amount. I like ethnic cookbooks and
> seem to be gravitating to cookbooks about desserts and
> baking, if only for making me imagine how
> 
> those desserts might taste. (I'm getting hungry just
> thinking about this stuff.) I am not saying there
> shouldn't be books on health, diet, and nutrition,
> 
> but I lean towards the straight cookbook that concerns
> itself with what people eat in a particular cuisine, how to
> get the ingredients, cooking methods,
> 
> history of cooking in that cuisine, and (I hope) lovely
> delicious recipe instructions that make me wish I were
> eating what I'm reading about. Would anybody
> 
> like me to go into amazon.com and I can send the names of
> cookbooks that I'm interested in seeing at bookshare,
> both the ones on my shopping cart (to be
> 
> bought later) and those on my wish list? I think if anyone
> is interested in this I should send the lists directly to
> interested parties on the Bookshare
> 
> volunteer discussion list. Also they might write me off
> list so nobody gets in trouble. Regards, Kim.  
> 
> ksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>  [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Monica Willyard
> 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:36 AM
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> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Kim and Jamie. For what it's worth, I've found
> that many cookbooks from the 80s and early 90s scan better
> than brand new cookbooks. I think that's because
> 
> they were using computers with more standard fonts, and
> they tend to use real fractions instead of the half symbol
> in ingredient lists. Cookbooks from
> 
> the 60s, on the other hand, don't scan so well because
> they often use a font that is sort of decorative or like
> handwriting, and the paper has yellowed.
> 
> The Frugal Gourmet books from the late 80s scanned very
> well. I wish I still had them to submit. I scanned them back
> when I was using DOS when I scanned
> 
> them in 1991, and they were almost flawless. I couldn't
> convert them when I started using Windows, and that means
> scanning them from scratch. I got them
> 
> from my local library. That means I can get them again. I
> just need some vacation time to do more scanning. The Frugal
> Gourmet Cooks With Wine is my favorite
> 
> in that series. Oh no! Now I've made myself hungry from
> thinking about the Italian gravy recipe in that book.  
> 
> 
> 
> Monica Willyard
> 
> 
> 
> "The best way to predict the future is to create
> it." -- Peter Drucker 
> 
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