[bksvol-discuss] Re: bolds, italics, ellipses

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 16:08:41 -0700 (PDT)

Thanks for this. I didn't remember that a space should be retained between 
ellipses and next word. I don't think I've beeen keeping those  spaces. My 
apologies to all.
Cindywhen I've  

--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bolds, italics, ellipses
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 3:21 PM
> Hi Lori,
> 
> Yes, exactly as you say.
> 
> Happy proofreading!
> 
> Mayrie
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Lori Castner
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 2:49 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bolds, italics, ellipses
> 
> S, Mayrie,
> If a sentence begins with a quotation mark then an
> ellipsis, we space
> between the ellipsis and the first word following it?
> 
> Lori C.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 12:27 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bolds, italics, ellipses
> 
> 
> > Hi Charisma,
> >
> > Oh, boy.  I'm going to copy a section on the
> ellipsis that is our standard
> > for handling them so that they represent properly in
> braille. This is what
> > Bookshare would like you to do, please. I'll paste it
> below my signature.
> > And then I'll save a copy for myself, because it's
> going to be a pain in 
> > the
> > neck to copy here from the braille book that I have it
> in that tells how 
> > to
> > format braille properly.  Tell me that you love
> me, because I have to read
> > with two hands, remember enough to type, type it and
> go back and read some
> > more.  But all of your questions about how to
> handle the ellipsis will be
> > answered!
> >
> > As for bold, it does not denote headings, the enlarged
> size
> > Of the font does that.  The bolding is helpful,
> and we like it, but it 
> > isn't
> > required. So you needn't go back and fix them if you
> don't want to.
> > Bookshare does not require that you keep either bold
> or italics.  That 
> > said,
> > as a reader yourself, with the ability to perceive
> italics, would you
> > personally prefer to have it in there?  Many do,
> some people don't care. 
> > My
> > advice, leave what you've done be for this book, call
> it a learning
> > experience, and don't remove the italics in future
> books.  Torture is not
> > the name of the game here, and I know that there are
> lots of books from
> > which italics have been removed by folks who didn't
> know they mattered.
> >
> > Okay, I'm going to paste/type below the information on
> how to properly
> > handle the ellipsis.
> >
> > Mayrie
> >
> > The ellipsis should be punctuated as if it were a
> word. Examples:
> > "Fools rush in ..."
> >
> > "... for they shall inherit the earth"
> > "Breathe, Mellissa. In ... and out. In ...
> > and out."
> > An ellipsis and a period.  Sometimes an ellipsis
> appears to be four dots
> > rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is
> either preceded or
> > followed by a period. Since the braille period is not
> the same as the dots
> > of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
> four dots is the 
> > period.
> >
> > If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a
> subject and a verb and
> > express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is
> taking the place of 
> > missing
> > words within the sentence--in which the period
> immediately follows the
> > ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
> gramatically complete,
> > the first dot represents the period and the ellipsis
> represents a 
> > following
> > missing sentence or sentences. In this case a blank
> cell (a space) is left
> > between the period and the following ellipsis.
> > Example:
> > As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to
> my own .... Well, 
> > you
> > know the story.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Charisma
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:24 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] bolds, italics, ellipses
> >
> > In the book I just scanned, from which I erroneously
> erased all italics 
> > and
> > bolds, the bolds were found in the glossary, for each
> new word.
> >
> > Ought I to have left those bolds? I thought anything
> that was in bold
> > indicated to the converter that that was a heading? Of
> course, in this 
> > case,
> > perhaps each new word in the glossary ought to be it's
> own heading? I
> > already had the beginning of the Glossary at font
> point 16.
> > I wonder now if I ought to have made each word in the
> glossary font point
> > 14, each word a subheading.
> >
> > OK, and since I erased every last italic in this 255+
> page book, ought I 
> > to
> > go back and replace them all? I will because I want
> the book to be perfect
> > but do I NEED to? (can you guess how I am
> hoping?  lol)
> >
> > Finally, ellipses.  I have a question about your
> experiences. All ellipses
> > in these examples are three dots, not spaces between
> them. On my Victor
> > Reader Stream, Set-up #1  If there is a word,
> then an ellipsis right up
> > against it, then a space, then the next word, it reads
> fine; I never know
> > there is an ellipsis there.
> > Set-up #2 If there is a word, then a space, then the
> ellipsis, then a 
> > space,
> > then the next word, I hear" dot dot dot".
> > Set-up #3 If there is a word and either a space or no
> space, then an
> > ellipsis then no space then the next word, if that
> next word has an
> > apostrophe it will not read properly. That is, if the
> ellipsis pushes up
> > against the word God's (like this ",,,God's"), my
> reader will read that as
> > "dot dot dot God s"
> >
> > I cannot remember which book it was that was doing
> this so I can't
> > doublecheck it in Victor Reader Soft but I am pretty
> sure these problems 
> > are
> > the same in there.
> >
> > My TextAloud does not care as far as #3 goes--it does
> not neglect
> > apostrophes.
> >
> > Also, hate hate hate four dot ellipses. Period OR
> ellipsis, author people,
> > not period AND ellipsis. I made an executive decision
> and made half 4 dot
> > and half 3 dot int eh 255+ page book I just did. Which
> shall I fix?
> >
> > Charisma
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