[bksvol-discuss] Re: What's the Deal with Text Files

Dear Jake or anyone,

I  read your explanation below with interest and don't understand part of it. I 
validate books in RTF files using jaws. But, I think the adjustments I make use 
Microsoft word. I'm not sure how I can be using Microsoft word and RTF at the 
same time. Is that what you think I'm doing? Are the changes I make preserved 
because I've made them to an RTF file? 

I hope my question makes sense. It's not urgent that you explain this. If I can 
understand what I'm doing better, that's great. If not, and my validations are 
approved, I'll be guessing I should continue working as  I have been. 

Always with love,

Lissi
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jake Brownell 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:00 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What's the Deal with Text Files


  Hi Evan,
      TXT files can contain page breaks. However the difficulty with this 
format is that many popular editors do not handle page breaks in TXT files. 
Notepad for example and Microsoft Word for another. These editors simply won't 
include them. TXT files created by Kurzweil though, do retain proper page 
breaks.
      A TXT file with page breaks can be opened in Word and then immediately 
saved in RTF, and the page breaks will remain. The BookShare system will accept 
a txt validation back in RTF.

  Jake
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Evan Reese 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:25 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] What's the Deal with Text Files


    I noticed that there are a few .txt files on the Step One page.  Also, a 
submitter who I am in communication with says he has some volumes in text 
format in a series which is incomplete on Bookshare.  But if I am not mistaken, 
.txt files have no page breaks in them.  I am unclear as to what I should tell 
this person, or what I should do if I should want to validate any .txt files in 
general.  My own inclination is to just validate them, because - as I believe 
the Bookshare site says - if you can read it, then someone else can read it.  
But I also believe that there is now some kind of policy that books without 
page breaks should be rejected, instituted last year some time.  Not everyone 
is aware of this, however, or is choosing to abide by it if they are aware of 
it, as the first book I submitted in January was just one long file without any 
page breaks - I had been removing them from books I had scanned for my own 
interest - and it was added to the collection quickly.  I had just scanned the 
book and finished reading it literally the day I joined Bookshare, and wasn't 
aware that page breaks were a requirement.  I have kept them in all my 
subsequent submissions and validations, though.  Anyhow, I don't want to 
discourage this person from sending up these books, and I myself would like to 
see them added to the collection, and I am pretty sure their text quality would 
be good as I know this person does pretty good scans, but on the other hand, I 
want to make sure everything is cool with the rules and such.

    Thanks for any guidance.



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