[bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip

  • From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:34:19 -0400

Please give me specific books you have submitted so I can find out if I have validated them. I can alternately send you a list of books I have validated if you cannot provideme with a list of your submissions.

E.


At 05:09 PM 10/7/2005, you wrote:

The translation is that, since BookShare will listen to no one, we should
take our problems to others.  I have all the devices you mentioned, but I
just can't find the plethora of page numbers you find.  I guess I don't read
such advanced books.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:52 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip


> Kenneth, > > I don't know if we have many options at this time. I would expect Peter to > be better informed than I am, though, so maybe he can answer your question. > > The only two DAISY readers that I know of other than K-1000 and OpenBook are > Victor Reader Soft and FS Reader. Personally, I don't like using Victor > Reader Soft, but I have seen it display page numbers, and it can be > downloaded from Bookshare. I've never tried FS Reader, so I don't know how > Freedom Scientific handles page numbers. > > Personally, I prefer to forgo DAISY at this time in favor of the HTML file > that can be unpacked with the DAISY files. Since that file is merely an > HTML file, it can be read using Internet Explorer and JAWS. I like being > able to skim passages in books that I've already read using JAWS to fast > forward to the next paragraph. The other nice thing about it is that I've > never seen a book which doesn't have page numbers throughout the text. > Occasionally I see two sets of page numbers, though. My guess is that this > is caused by the Stripper not being able to recognize page numbers, so it > assigns page numbers based on a page's location in a file, which, as we all > know, may not synch with the page numbers in the book since many books begin > numbering the pages with the first page of the prologue or chapter 1. > > If many of you are using K-1000 to read the DAISY files as I suspect, and > you aren't able to see page numbers throughout the text as you would like, > then I'd suggest making your wish known to Kurzweil. > > Gerald > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kenneth A. > Cross > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:02 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip > > > I have asked before, and will use this communication to ask again, just what > do I buy to read these daisy files with the page numbers and all. As soon > as I get an answer, I will buy whatever brand is recommended to me and will > report on my joy at getting all these correct page numbers. Somebody tell > me what to buy. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:29 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip > > > > Jana, > > Sorry to hear you're an evacuee. But what dedication, to bring your > > Bookshare stuff with you! > > > > You seem to be saying that you are protecting page numbers with stars. > You > > should not. The stripper needs the page numbers to be recognizable so it > > can put them in the file for Daisy readers (us non-Daisy users are just > out > > in the cold.) As I understand it, the page number must be on the first, > or > > last, line of a page, with a blank line below it, or above it, if it's on > > the bottom. Then, the stripper is supposed to recognize it and, yes, > strip > > it, putting it into some place for Daisy to see. > > > > What I do with headers, as a validator, is cut out the text portion, and > > leave the page number, then make sure the number is at the top, with a > blank > > line under it, or at the bottom, with a blank line before it. Clear as > Mud? > > > > What you did with chapter headings sounds fine. > > Tracy > > > > At 11:18 PM 10/6/05 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hi, all! Okay, so life as an evacuee is getting a bit boring, and I > > thought I'd have a little fun with the subject line. <Smile> > > > > > >I'm about to submit a book which I've been working on for a while. I > have > > left the headings in the book for now, and I've protected the chapter > > headings and page numbers with asterisks. The chapter headings have > > asterisks on the very top line of the page, followed by a blank line. The > > page numbers, which are at the bottom of the page, are followed by a blank > > line and then about five asterisks. > > > > > >My question is actually twofold, I guess. Will this be enough to keep > the > > stripper from going too far? If so, should I go ahead and strip the > > headers, replacing them with asterisks? I know we've about discussed this > > one to death, but since I don't have all of the BookShare posts on my > > laptop, and since I've had just a few things on my mind other than > Bookshare > > for the past week and a half, I thought I'd see if someone could refresh > my > > memory. Thanks! > > > > > >Jana > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Jana Jackson > > >Director Of Training > > >Indigo Logix, LLC > > >Direct: (615)661-5254 > > >E-mail: jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Web Site: http://www.indigo-logix.com > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >For information about Jana's music ministry, visit her web site at > > >http://www.janajackson.com/. > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > ____________________________________________ > > >Need to plan a vacation or business trip? Jana's new on-line travel > > agency, JJM Travel, offers some of the best deals on the Internet for > > airfares, hotels, last-minute getaways, and more! For all of your travel > > needs, visit http://1793084.prttravel.com. To log in, type the ID number > > 1793084. To learn how you too can save up to 90% on all of your travel, > > visit http://jjm.gttrends.net. Jana is happy to answer any questions you > > might have concerning this exciting opportunity to work and have fun at > the > > same time. If you have questions, feel free to e-mail her at > > jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > > ><HTML><HEAD> > > ><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> > > ><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR> > > ><STYLE></STYLE> > > ></HEAD> > > ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, all!&nbsp; Okay, so life as an evacuee > is > > >getting a bit boring, and I thought I'd have a little fun with the > subject > > line. > > >&lt;Smile&gt;</FONT></DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm about to submit a book which I've been > > working > > >on for a while.&nbsp; I have left the headings in the book for now, and > I've > > >protected the chapter headings and page numbers with asterisks.&nbsp; The > > >chapter headings have asterisks on the very top line of the page, > followed > > by a > > >blank line.&nbsp; The page numbers, which are at the bottom of the page, > are > > >followed by a blank line and then about five asterisks.&nbsp; > </FONT></DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My question is actually twofold, I > guess.&nbsp; > > >Will this be enough to keep the stripper from going too far?&nbsp; If so, > > should > > >I go ahead and strip the headers, replacing them with asterisks?&nbsp; I > know > > >we've about discussed this one to death, but since I don't have all of > the > > >BookShare posts on my laptop, and since I've had just a few things on my > mind > > >other than Bookshare for the past week and a half, I thought I'd see if > > someone > > >could refresh my memory.&nbsp; Thanks!</FONT></DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jana</FONT></DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial > > > >size=2>-------------------------------------------------------------------< > > BR>Jana > > >Jackson<BR>Director Of Training<BR>Indigo Logix, LLC<BR>Direct: > > >(615)661-5254<BR>E-mail: <A > > >href="mailto:jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Web > Site: <A > > > >href="http://www.indigo-logix.com";>http://www.indigo-logix.com</A></FONT></ > DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial > > > >size=2>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---<BR>For > > >information about Jana's music ministry, visit her web site at<BR><A > > > >href="http://www.janajackson.com/";>http://www.janajackson.com/</A>.</FONT>< > > /DIV> > > ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> > > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial > > > >size=2>____________________________________________________________________ > > ___________________________________________________<BR>Need > > >to plan a vacation or business trip?&nbsp; Jana's new on-line travel > > agency, JJM > > >Travel, offers some of the best deals on the Internet for airfares, > hotels, > > >last-minute getaways, and more!&nbsp; For all of your travel needs, visit > <A > > > >href="http://1793084.prttravel.com";>http://1793084.prttravel.com</A>.&nbsp; > To > > >log in, type the ID number 1793084.&nbsp; To learn how you too can save > up to > > >90% on all of your travel, visit <A > > >href="http://jjm.gttrends.net";>http://jjm.gttrends.net</A>.&nbsp; Jana is > > happy > > >to answer any questions you might have concerning this exciting > opportunity to > > >work and have fun at the same time.&nbsp; If you have questions, feel > free to > > >e-mail her at <A > > > >href="mailto:jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>.<BR></FONT></DI > > V></BODY></HTML> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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