[bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
- From: "Kenneth A. Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:09:25 -0400
The translation is that, since BookShare will listen to no one, we should
take our problems to others. I have all the devices you mentioned, but I
just can't find the plethora of page numbers you find. I guess I don't read
such advanced books.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:52 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
> Kenneth,
>
> I don't know if we have many options at this time. I would expect Peter
to
> be better informed than I am, though, so maybe he can answer your
question.
>
> The only two DAISY readers that I know of other than K-1000 and OpenBook
are
> Victor Reader Soft and FS Reader. Personally, I don't like using Victor
> Reader Soft, but I have seen it display page numbers, and it can be
> downloaded from Bookshare. I've never tried FS Reader, so I don't know
how
> Freedom Scientific handles page numbers.
>
> Personally, I prefer to forgo DAISY at this time in favor of the HTML file
> that can be unpacked with the DAISY files. Since that file is merely an
> HTML file, it can be read using Internet Explorer and JAWS. I like being
> able to skim passages in books that I've already read using JAWS to fast
> forward to the next paragraph. The other nice thing about it is that I've
> never seen a book which doesn't have page numbers throughout the text.
> Occasionally I see two sets of page numbers, though. My guess is that
this
> is caused by the Stripper not being able to recognize page numbers, so it
> assigns page numbers based on a page's location in a file, which, as we
all
> know, may not synch with the page numbers in the book since many books
begin
> numbering the pages with the first page of the prologue or chapter 1.
>
> If many of you are using K-1000 to read the DAISY files as I suspect, and
> you aren't able to see page numbers throughout the text as you would like,
> then I'd suggest making your wish known to Kurzweil.
>
> Gerald
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kenneth A.
> Cross
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:02 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
>
>
> I have asked before, and will use this communication to ask again, just
what
> do I buy to read these daisy files with the page numbers and all. As soon
> as I get an answer, I will buy whatever brand is recommended to me and
will
> report on my joy at getting all these correct page numbers. Somebody tell
> me what to buy.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:29 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
>
>
> > Jana,
> > Sorry to hear you're an evacuee. But what dedication, to bring your
> > Bookshare stuff with you!
> >
> > You seem to be saying that you are protecting page numbers with stars.
> You
> > should not. The stripper needs the page numbers to be recognizable so
it
> > can put them in the file for Daisy readers (us non-Daisy users are just
> out
> > in the cold.) As I understand it, the page number must be on the first,
> or
> > last, line of a page, with a blank line below it, or above it, if it's
on
> > the bottom. Then, the stripper is supposed to recognize it and, yes,
> strip
> > it, putting it into some place for Daisy to see.
> >
> > What I do with headers, as a validator, is cut out the text portion, and
> > leave the page number, then make sure the number is at the top, with a
> blank
> > line under it, or at the bottom, with a blank line before it. Clear as
> Mud?
> >
> > What you did with chapter headings sounds fine.
> > Tracy
> >
> > At 11:18 PM 10/6/05 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Hi, all! Okay, so life as an evacuee is getting a bit boring, and I
> > thought I'd have a little fun with the subject line. <Smile>
> > >
> > >I'm about to submit a book which I've been working on for a while. I
> have
> > left the headings in the book for now, and I've protected the chapter
> > headings and page numbers with asterisks. The chapter headings have
> > asterisks on the very top line of the page, followed by a blank line.
The
> > page numbers, which are at the bottom of the page, are followed by a
blank
> > line and then about five asterisks.
> > >
> > >My question is actually twofold, I guess. Will this be enough to keep
> the
> > stripper from going too far? If so, should I go ahead and strip the
> > headers, replacing them with asterisks? I know we've about discussed
this
> > one to death, but since I don't have all of the BookShare posts on my
> > laptop, and since I've had just a few things on my mind other than
> Bookshare
> > for the past week and a half, I thought I'd see if someone could refresh
> my
> > memory. Thanks!
> > >
> > >Jana
> > >
> > >-------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >Jana Jackson
> > >Director Of Training
> > >Indigo Logix, LLC
> > >Direct: (615)661-5254
> > >E-mail: jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Web Site: http://www.indigo-logix.com
> > >
> > >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >For information about Jana's music ministry, visit her web site at
> > >http://www.janajackson.com/.
> > >
> >
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
> > ____________________________________________
> > >Need to plan a vacation or business trip? Jana's new on-line travel
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> > might have concerning this exciting opportunity to work and have fun at
> the
> > same time. If you have questions, feel free to e-mail her at
> > jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> > ><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, all! Okay, so life as an evacuee
> is
> > >getting a bit boring, and I thought I'd have a little fun with the
> subject
> > line.
> > ><Smile></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm about to submit a book which I've been
> > working
> > >on for a while. I have left the headings in the book for now, and
> I've
> > >protected the chapter headings and page numbers with asterisks.
The
> > >chapter headings have asterisks on the very top line of the page,
> followed
> > by a
> > >blank line. The page numbers, which are at the bottom of the
page,
> are
> > >followed by a blank line and then about five asterisks.
> </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My question is actually twofold, I
> guess.
> > >Will this be enough to keep the stripper from going too far? If
so,
> > should
> > >I go ahead and strip the headers, replacing them with asterisks?
I
> know
> > >we've about discussed this one to death, but since I don't have all of
> the
> > >BookShare posts on my laptop, and since I've had just a few things on
my
> mind
> > >other than Bookshare for the past week and a half, I thought I'd see if
> > someone
> > >could refresh my memory. Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jana</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial
> >
>
>size=2>-------------------------------------------------------------------<
> > BR>Jana
> > >Jackson<BR>Director Of Training<BR>Indigo Logix, LLC<BR>Direct:
> > >(615)661-5254<BR>E-mail: <A
> > >href="mailto:jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Web
> Site: <A
> >
>
>href="http://www.indigo-logix.com";>http://www.indigo-logix.com</A></FONT></
> DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial
> >
>
>size=2>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---<BR>For
> > >information about Jana's music ministry, visit her web site at<BR><A
> >
>
>href="http://www.janajackson.com/";>http://www.janajackson.com/</A>.</FONT><
> > /DIV>
> > ><DIV> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial
> >
>
>size=2>____________________________________________________________________
> > ___________________________________________________<BR>Need
> > >to plan a vacation or business trip? Jana's new on-line travel
> > agency, JJM
> > >Travel, offers some of the best deals on the Internet for airfares,
> hotels,
> > >last-minute getaways, and more! For all of your travel needs,
visit
> <A
> >
>
>href="http://1793084.prttravel.com";>http://1793084.prttravel.com</A>.
> To
> > >log in, type the ID number 1793084. To learn how you too can save
> up to
> > >90% on all of your travel, visit <A
> > >href="http://jjm.gttrends.net";>http://jjm.gttrends.net</A>. Jana
is
> > happy
> > >to answer any questions you might have concerning this exciting
> opportunity to
> > >work and have fun at the same time. If you have questions, feel
> free to
> > >e-mail her at <A
> >
>
>href="mailto:jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>.<BR></FONT></DI
> > V></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> >
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