Oh, Cindy, you've been excellent help already. Your suggestion about how to include the cards is awesome, and makes wonderful sense to me. That Bridge notation makes sense. And if my Bridge book does contain just what you described, then it should scan beautifully. I'll take a look, find a few pages with hands, and see what it does. The problem is the book has gone missing, so I need to relocate it. Thanks for your ideas! Lora -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grandma Cindy Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 10:51 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Scanning Books with Playing Card Pictures Hi, Lora, Your request sent me back to the 10 pages of card game books in my library's online catalog, and the only ones that weren't illustrated were one that was 1971 and a couple that were even older. So I guess illustrations are "in." I wonder if television has anything to do with the modern desire to illustrate everything. smile I also wonder exactly what "illustrated" means. From what you said, I gather your book has full-colorpicture of the cards. The bridge column in the paper shows the hands with the suit symbol only and the card number and letters. I read Monica's post about reading with screen readers. Depending on the illustration you're going to describe, maybe rather than write out each card, like Ace of Clubs, you could do as in the paper, e.g., Diamonds: K,9,7,4,2 (to describe one suit in today[s paper that West is holding. If I can be of help, let me know. It may be that the illustrations aren't really necessary because they illustrate rather than clarify, if you know what I mean. In some books that I've validated the illustrations move the story along by showing things that aren't told in the text, but in others they simply illustrate what the text says. Cindy R --- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Cindy, > > One thing that would be wonderfully helpful is if you can find a way > to let me know if a book I'm considering has card pictures, or just > text names for the cards. Then I can better choose books to buy and > scan. > > For instance, I bought a recently published book on bridge, copyright > 2001, I think, and every hand contained a picture, to show which cards > North, South, East and West held. These pictures are essential to the > text, because you work with the information in the pictures to devise > strategies and such. > > If I gave you a short list of books, would you be able to try to tell > me which were picture-based, and which were text? > > What books did you find in your library that were text-based? > > Thanks for everything. > > Lora > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grandma > Cindy > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 4:18 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Scanning Books with Playing Card > Pictures > > That's interesting. My Hoyle book on games, admittedly very old, is > all text except for one picture of a backgammon board. I bought one > for my card-playing daughters a couple of years ago but I didn't look > at it that thoroughly. > > I wouldn't think that illustrations are necessary, if the instructions > are clear. I checked my library catalog, and while I see that several > of the books do have illustrations, at least one does not. > > Just my opinion. I prefer getting my information and instruction from > reading clear text than from looking at pictures. > > Cindy R > Most books on card > > games use pictures for the > > cards. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > subject line. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > subject line. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.