Thank you, Sarah. That is very helpful, and I shall save this in case I forget. Cindy -- Sarah Van Oosterwijck <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The following is only my suggestion, Cindy. > > I would remove headers that are only repeating the > book title and author, > but leave in ones that provide other information. > Repeating chapter titles > in non-fiction books are also basically useless > unless the real chapter > title is missing. It would be best to either remove > the running header in > that case, or leave it and add the same header to > the top of the page on > which the new chapter begins. The header often does > not exist there, and > placing it above the real chapter heading will > preserve the chapter title. > > The headers are most useful in books where they > identify the section you > are reading from. I am feeling guilty about > removing some headers that > were section identifiers. Peer pressure rarely has > a strong effect on me, > but this is evidence that it did work at least once. > ;-) > Some example of sections would be the desert section > in a cookbook which > might have several chapters under it about things > like cakes, pies, and > cookies. You could also have a section headings > like the four seasons with > different information in several chapters under > that. I'm sure you will > recognize useful headers when you see them once you > start to think about > them and look for them. :-) > > Sarah Van Oosterwijck > Assistive Technology Trainer > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:01 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quick processing of my > book > > > > I'm getting confused again, after all this talk > about > > the necessit y of headings. (Sorry, Gerald -- I > > thought after your help I understood and and was > doing > > what I should to preserve chapter titles and page > > numbers).Should I, henceforth, *not* delete > headers if > > they're present, even when the headers are the > book > > title and/or author's name? Or is it only whenthe > > headers is a chapter title tht I should leave it > in? > > (I don't think I've ever seen any of those) > > Should I move the page number below the header or > > leave it on the same line so the header won't be > > stripped--and drop both down a line space as > Pratik > > and Gerald suggested quite some time ago? I won' > put > > back in those that have already been taken out, > > though, of the books I'm working on. I want to > know > > for the future. > > > > Cindy > > > > > > --- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Jim > >> > >> I have no doubt that the stripper properly > prepares > >> the book for use and > >> navigation with the Daisy player as it was > designed > >> to. > >> Similarily, the .brf copy follows standards for > that > >> medium. > >> The issue, it would appear, is that a whole bunch > of > >> us read BookShare > >> books on hybrid equipment or programs which may > or > >> may not give > >> satisfactory results regardless of modifications > >> made to the stripper. > >> What is particularly disappointing with > Charlene's > >> book is that she took > >> great pains in preserving headers which, using > >> programs such as K1000, > >> could easily be used to find categories within > the > >> book. > >> > >> What I would suggest as a solution to this > dilemma > >> is twofold: > >> > >> (1) create a 3rd category of downloadable book > in > >> addition to .brf and > >> .daisy, calling it something like raw. > >> This would be the book in a form prior to > stripping > >> and massaging. > >> > >> (2) As the stripper is essential to the > preparation > >> of books for Daisy > >> players, leave suggestions for changes to it > solely > >> to those who actually > >> use Daisy players. > >> > >> As an experiment for testing the feasibility of > (1) > >> outlined above, would > >> it be possible to create a test sampling of > titles > >> in raw form so those of > >> us who would prefer unstripped books could test > >> that idea out with some > >> actual BookShare material. > >> > >> I believe that a lot of us didn't fully > understand > >> what the stripper does > >> because we were unfamiliar in how it was involved > >> withDaisy production. > >> So abolishing the stripper or not using it is > hardly > >> a practical solution > >> as doing that would create its own set of > headaches. > >> Perhaps if a third type of book, the raw book, > were > >> a downloadable option, > >> this might resolve many of the complaints. > >> > >> If this solution proved satisfactory, it might be > >> the cheapest one for > >> Benetech as it would require the least programmer > >> time. > >> From your end, it might also prove useful to > survey > >> veteran (users with > >> the service for over 6 months) to find out what > >> equippment they use for > >> reading BookShare users. > >> I, when I began with the service from almost day > >> one, initially used the > >> supplied Daisy player. > >> Over time, I moved away from them to what I use > now > >> namely K1000 and my > >> Book Port. > >> I, as a matter of fact, don't even have a Daisy > >> player on my pc system. > >> > >> As noted above, if you could create a page giving > us > >> a handful of books in > >> their raw unstripped unprepared form, it would be > an > >> inexpensive test to > >> see if "we can live without the stripper". > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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