Jim I have no doubt that the stripper properly prepares the book for use and navigation with the Daisy player as it was designed to. Similarily, the .brf copy follows standards for that medium. The issue, it would appear, is that a whole bunch of us read BookShare books on hybrid equipment or programs which may or may not give satisfactory results regardless of modifications made to the stripper. What is particularly disappointing with Charlene's book is that she took great pains in preserving headers which, using programs such as K1000, could easily be used to find categories within the book. What I would suggest as a solution to this dilemma is twofold: (1) create a 3rd category of downloadable book in addition to .brf and .daisy, calling it something like raw. This would be the book in a form prior to stripping and massaging. (2) As the stripper is essential to the preparation of books for Daisy players, leave suggestions for changes to it solely to those who actually use Daisy players. As an experiment for testing the feasibility of (1) outlined above, would it be possible to create a test sampling of titles in raw form so those of us who would prefer unstripped books could test that idea out with some actual BookShare material. I believe that a lot of us didn't fully understand what the stripper does because we were unfamiliar in how it was involved withDaisy production. So abolishing the stripper or not using it is hardly a practical solution as doing that would create its own set of headaches. Perhaps if a third type of book, the raw book, were a downloadable option, this might resolve many of the complaints. If this solution proved satisfactory, it might be the cheapest one for Benetech as it would require the least programmer time. From your end, it might also prove useful to survey veteran (users with the service for over 6 months) to find out what equippment they use for reading BookShare users. I, when I began with the service from almost day one, initially used the supplied Daisy player. Over time, I moved away from them to what I use now namely K1000 and my Book Port. I, as a matter of fact, don't even have a Daisy player on my pc system. As noted above, if you could create a page giving us a handful of books in their raw unstripped unprepared form, it would be an inexpensive test to see if "we can live without the stripper". Mike