[bksvol-discuss] Re: Problem with Open Book

  • From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:58:53 -0500

I got a legal copy of Office 2003 for under $80; I would guess if you look 
around you could find a sealed copy of Word 2003 for under $50.

Valerie


On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Denise Thompson wrote:

> It's up to you. I've told you how you can easily fix the problem. You can 
> pick up a copy of word for probably $100 or less and keep using your OB 6. 
> It's a rather inexpensive fix.
> Denise
> 
> 
> At 11:40 PM 4/6/2010, you wrote:
>> The editing software I use to clean up my scans is Open Book 6, the same 
>> thing I scan them with. I think I have gotten pretty good at it too. I scan 
>> two pages at a time and proofread each and do a spell check on each before 
>> going on to the next two. Except for this one major problem I think I have 
>> gotten to the point that I am making near perfect submissions. It is a major 
>> problem though. It is looking like I will have to go back to proofing only. 
>> I think I will do some window shopping for new software though, maybe even 
>> including Word, maybe including Kurzweil. I am extremely hesitant though. 
>> For my own purposes, that is, non Bookshare purposes, this Open Book 
>> software is just fine with me. After all, why should I worry about a slight 
>> pause at the end of a line when I am reading bills or junk mail.
>> 
>> 
>> _     _      _
>> 
>> "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than 
>> you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you 
>> will understand why I dismiss yours"
>> Stephen Roberts
>> 
>> 
>> The Militant:
>> http://www.themilitant.com
>> Pathfinder Press:
>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>> Granma International:
>>   http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Thompson" <deniset@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:59 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Problem with Open Book
>> 
>> 
>>> No that is not what I'm talking about. I don't use that 27 step
>>> method. I use certain steps within it, but what I'm talking about is
>>> not that it's a formula that I researched on how to get rid of
>>> unwanted paragraph marks when I started volunteering last year at
>>> about this time and found I was dealing with the same issue. And it
>>> works perfectly. I've scanned many books and every one of them since
>>> I learned what to do have been accepted and my proofers have not had
>>> to fix paragraph issues. However without word it's not going to work.
>>> What editing software do you use to clean up your scans?
>>> Denise
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 10:47 PM 4/6/2010, you wrote:
>>>> No, I do not have Word. I think you are talking about that 27 step
>>>> process and that is what I was unable to accomplish because I do not
>>>> have the right equipment. Besides the guy I was talking to from
>>>> Bookshare said that is not an ideal solution either because it only
>>>> eliminates about 80 to 90 per cent of the unwanted breaks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _     _      _
>>>> 
>>>> "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer
>>>> god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
>>>> possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours"
>>>> Stephen Roberts
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Militant:
>>>> http://www.themilitant.com
>>>> Pathfinder Press:
>>>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>>>> Granma International:
>>>>   http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:00 PM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Problem with Open Book
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If I understand you, your scans come out as ark files. Can you
>>>> convert them to Word/ Then you can  save them  rtf files.
>>>> I can tell you how to get rid of the paragraph symbols at the end of
>>>> the lines in Word, in one fell swoop, if you are careful. It it's
>>>> what I did for a couple of your books when Carrie put them on the
>>>> download list for me to fix
>>>> Cindy
>>>> 
>>>> Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and
>>>> books-being-scanned list available at sites below
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
>>>> 
>>>> Books Being Scanned List:
>>>> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Problem with Open Book
>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 5:05 PM
>>>>> Some of you will remember that quite
>>>>> some time ago I had a problem with my Open Book 6 such that
>>>>> it was inserting paragraph breaks after every single line in
>>>>> my scans. After getting various suggestions on how to stop
>>>>> it and after none of them worked I finally gave up and just
>>>>> submitted them that way while placing a note in the comments
>>>>> section asking the proofreader to remove them. Since last
>>>>> night and into today I have been in telephone and email
>>>>> contact with both Bookshare and Freedom Scientific technical
>>>>> support. What it comes down to is that my solution is no
>>>>> longer exceptable. A lot of proofreaders have the same
>>>>> problem that I have in not having the software or expertise
>>>>> that allows those breaks to be easily removed and others
>>>>> either do not understand the problem or do not read the
>>>>> comments and submit what they think is a perfectly good
>>>>> proofed book and it has to be sent back. Even when a proofer
>>>>> uses the 27 step process described in the manual, that is
>>>>> not an ideal solution either. I have been told that for one
>>>>> thing it is an advanced technique that is beyond some
>>>>> proofers and for another thing it really only removes maybe
>>>>> 80 to 90 per cent of the unwanted breaks. What it comes down
>>>>> to is that I am going to have to solve the problem by either
>>>>> upgrading my software -- an expensive prospect that I would
>>>>> like to avoid -- or find a solution within my current
>>>>> software or else quit scanning and go back to proofreading.
>>>>> Even if it is a bit more work I prefer scanning because that
>>>>> way I am more likely to get to work on something I am
>>>>> actually interested in. When I skim the checkout list it is
>>>>> clear that most of you do not entirely share my tastes.
>>>>> Right now I would like to ask a couple of questions. First,
>>>>> since people come and go here I want to ask if there is
>>>>> anyone present now who knows how to make Open Book stop
>>>>> this. I doubt that I will get a satisfactory answer to that
>>>>> one because Freedom Scientific technical support today knew
>>>>> of no such settings either. Secondly, let me describe the
>>>>> next step that I have worked out with a certain Bookshare
>>>>> employee. The next step is that I should scan something in
>>>>> RTF rather than ARK and converting it. Now, once, a long
>>>>> time ago, I had the idea that since I had to convert it to
>>>>> RTF anyway I would just scan it that way in the first place.
>>>>> There was some kind of problem with that which I don't
>>>>> remember, but whatever it was I decided that it wouldn't
>>>>> work. Now I am trying again and I don't remember how. I went
>>>>> into my settings and changed the default format to RTF and
>>>>> then I created a new blank document, but when I looked at it
>>>>> it had an ARK extension. I went ahead and scanned a few
>>>>> pages into it and they still had the line break problem. I
>>>>> then converted it to RTF and it still had the line break
>>>>> problem. I then created a new document that turned out to
>>>>> have an ARK extension too and converted it to RTF while
>>>>> there was nothing in it. I then had a blank document with an
>>>>> RTF extension. I scanned a few pages into that and it still
>>>>> had the same problem. The guy at Bookshare said that he
>>>>> didn't really think that constituted scanning in RTF, so he
>>>>> asked me to ask the list how I could scan in RTF. Once I do
>>>>> so I am supposed to email the result to him. So, does anyone
>>>>> know how to do that? And let me add one more question. How
>>>>> much does it cost to upgrade to the latest version of Open
>>>>> Book and, if I went for Kurzweil instead, how much would
>>>>> they cost if I already have Open Book 6? I would hate to go
>>>>> that route because, even though I have added a few reasons
>>>>> for volunteering since I started, including that I just
>>>>> enjoy it, the main reason for becoming a volunteer in the
>>>>> first place was to accumulate credits and defray the cost of
>>>>> a subscription. I really don't have a lot of money to play
>>>>> with.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _ _ _
>>>>> 
>>>>> "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one
>>>>> fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss
>>>>> all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
>>>>> dismiss yours"
>>>>> Stephen Roberts
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Militant:
>>>>> http://www.themilitant.com
>>>>> Pathfinder Press:
>>>>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>>>>> Granma International:
>>>>>   http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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