[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:06:30 -0700 (PDT)
The blank page is usually, if not always, between numbered pages, often at the
end of a chapter before the next chapter. I don't know if you read as you proof
or scan, but even if not, if you're checking pagination at the end of your
process it's easy enough to number the blank page. That way the reader knows
that the pages was intentionally blank and that no text is missing. I assume
you already number pages that have photos or illustrations, or am I wrong?
Cindy
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>From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:44:13 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?
>
> >
>Sorry, I don't understand. Especially the part
>about blank pages.
>
>You said: "Should
>Blank Pages be numbered?
>Typically
>blank pages in the original book are not numbered, but are accounted for in
>pagination. In order to make the approval process more efficient, while
>proofreading books for Bookshare, please insert page numbers on all blank
>pages."
>
>If blank
>pages are not numbered in the book then how are you going to number them
>without
>renumbering the entire book: a chore which I am loath to do.
>
>Bob
-----
>Original Message -----
>From: Pavi Mehta
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:05
>>PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page
>> numbers?
>>
>>
>>Hi
>> All,
>>
>>This
>> thread has been great in that it’s pointed out places where our guidelines
>> for
>> page numbering could use some more detail.
>>Am
>> including here a draft of some insertions that it would be great to have
>> feedback on before finalizing them for the manual.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Pavi
>>
>>If
>> only every other page is numbered in a book, should I number the left out
>> pages in the scanned file?
>>Yes.
>> In such cases please insert page numbers where they are
>> missing.
>>
>>Guidelines
>> for inserting page numbers in a book that has none:
>>
>>When
>> inserting page numbers in a book that has none please start page number one
>> with the main content of the book. Roman numerals can be used for all pages
>> preceding chapter 1 and for any end matter.
>>
>>Bookshare
>> Guidelines for dealing with Blank Pages:
>>
>>Please
>> retain all blank pages when scanning or proofreading a book for Bookshare.
>> To
>> avoid confusion, all blank pages should be indicated in the following
>> manner:
>> Open square bracket, type the phrase Blank Page, close square bracket.
>> Example: [BLANK
>> PAGE]
>>
>>Should
>> Blank Pages be numbered?
>>Typically
>> blank pages in the original book are not numbered, but are accounted for in
>> pagination. In order to make the approval process more efficient, while
>> proofreading books for Bookshare, please insert page numbers on all blank
>> pages.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From:>> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill
>> O'Connell
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:15 AM
>>To: >> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page
>> numbers?
>>
>>Rick,
>> No wonder your book was such a joy to proofread.
>>-----
>>> Original Message -----
>>>From:Rik James
>>>To:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent:>>> Monday, June 01, 2009 11:30 PM
>>>Subject:>>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?
>>>
>>>The
>>> first book I ever submitted I did not know or ever even consider about
>>> page numbers. I got a nice email from someone who was proofing asking me
>>> what about pages such and such? I wondered to myself at first,
>>> what's the big deal, the text is all good, and so on. Then soon I
>>> discovered she was correct, there was some missing and
>>> some duplicates. So lesson learned. It was quite a learning
>>> experience, and ever since I have paid close attention to the page
>>> numbers
>>> as I scan a book and then look it over to see that it all is there
>>> before I submit it. The person who actually has the book in hand can
>>> save a lot of worry and problem solving by getting it right at the front
>>> end
>>> of the project, I believe.
>>>
>>>One
>>> thing I do now is to also look at the page numbers listed in the Table
>>> of
>>> Contents when the book has one. To check to see if the page numbers
>>> for the corresponding chapters fall on that page and that there is a
>>> page
>>> number. Sometimes there is a blank page at the end of a chapter or
>>> between them and it will not have a page number printed but it is part
>>> of
>>> the pagination.
>>>
>>>All
>>> of the business of how many pages your file has in your unit, that gets
>>> sort
>>> of strange, and I always just look right away (so to speak, using speech
>>> or
>>> whatever) to see where pagination begins in the book, with roman
>>> numerals,
>>> or whatever. They are not always marked, yet may be reflected in the
>>> table
>>> of contents. So I make sure as best I can that the pagination works all
>>> like
>>> it is supposed to.
>>>
>>>And
>>> I do move page numbers to the top even if they are at the bottom myself.
>>> I
>>> know someone said they thought that might be changing too much from the
>>> original. I have to say I do not think it does. In fact as a reader,
>>> if I hear that the page number is at the end of a page I am usually
>>> fooled
>>> and am thinking I am starting on the next page. Some good number
>>> of books from Bookshare have two page numbers that do not match together
>>> in
>>> the text. I don't know what is the reason this happens. I do get
>>> used to it, but it is a bit confusing and I think, unnecessary if we who
>>> submit take on those tasks early on and just pay attention as we go
>>> before
>>> submitting.
>>>
>>>If
>>> I am out of line, sorry. Just going off what I have experienced thus far
>>> in
>>> this little wee world of book scanning.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>Rik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From:Mayrie
>>> ReNae
>>>Sent:>>> Monday, June 01, 2009 8:19 PM
>>>To:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject:>>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?
>>>
>>>Hi
>>> Megan,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have noticed that when Amazon gives a page count, it often includes
>>> preliminary pages. Perhaps your page count will match if you add the
>>> number of preliminary pages, and the number of pages of actual text?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>Mayrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
________________________________
>>>From:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>
>>>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Megmil85@xxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Monday,
>>> June 01, 2009 7:11 PM
>>>To: >>> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page
>>> numbers?
>>>Yes,
>>> that's the one. It seems that the text portion has 164 pages, that's the
>>> page count word and my BrailleNote gave me for the part without the
>>> front
>>> matter but Amazon.com says it should have 176 so I'm not sure what the
>>> inconsistency is related to. The book scanned great, no duplications or
>>> omissions so I don't know if I should just insert page numbers at the
>>> top of
>>> each page even though it'll come out shorter than it supposedly should
>>> be or
>>> if we could/should go through and see what each page starts with.
>>>
>>> I'm
>>> new at this, especially the page number policy, so just tell me what I
>>> should do. Oh, can you do me two favors? Can you tell me what was on
>>> the title page, they told me I needed to insert one before the copyright
>>> when I tried to submit it this morning, how many Roman Numerals there
>>> are
>>> and how many pages? I want to make sure I get the title page right and
>>> maybe
>>> Amazon got the page count wrong. Thanks!
>>> I
>>> loved this book, I have to say. I was surprised and had just gotten it
>>> thinking it'd be an easy read, but I really enjoyed
>>> it.
>>>
>>>In
>>> a message dated 6/1/2009 6:52:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> amber.wallens@xxxxxxxxx writes:
>>>I
>>>> think I scanned the book you are referring to, if it's Halloween
>>>> Rain. I have the book if there are any problems. I submitted
>>>> it before BKS's page number policy.
>>>>Amber
>>>>Book
>>>> blog:
>>>>http://community.livejournal.com/book_cuddler/
>>>>I
>>>> have accepted a seat in the House of Representatives, and thereby
>>>> have
>>>> consented to my own ruin, to your ruin, and to the ruin of our
>>>> children. I
>>>> give
>>>>you this warning that you may prepare your mind for your
>>>> fate.
>>>>John Adams
>>>>E-Mail: amber.wallens@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
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