Hi Mayrie, How do you get on to the bookshare discuss list? Thanks, Jackie On 3/11/12, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Would you mind moving this discussion to the bookshare-discuss > list, please? It is very appropriate for that list, but less so for this > list since it's wandered from volunteering topics to opinion sharing. > > Thanks very much. > > I don't want to kill the discussion. I just want to make sure that new > volunteers are willing to stay and find the discussions pertinent directly > to volunteering tasks. We do tend to lose folks when discussions diverging > from volunteering happen. > > Sorry, and thank you. > > Mayrie > > > > _____ > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:01 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Nobel Prize winners in Literature from 1901 > was Special COllections > > > I prefer Dickens over Faulkner myself, but, also like you, Dickens is far > from my favorite too. It is subjective though. Again, it is fine with me > that other people like Faulkner. It is not fine with me that Faulkner > readers look down on non Faulkner readers as if they were pond scum. > > On 3/11/2012 5:37 PM, Cindy wrote: > > If you read the criteria on which the prize was awarded to each author you > can see the committee wasn't a Literary snob. My liking for a book is > somewhat like Kim's. I tried to Faulkner but couldn't get "into": him. I > never did like Dickens, and still don't, except for Tale of Two Cities (the > other bks are too depressing fr me. We started watching the recent > Masterpiece Theater production but gave up for that reason. I did enjoy the > Sinclai Lewis book I proofed. It was a long time ago, but as I recall it > satirized society and was was written. The Good Earth got me very in volved > with the characters and,and ofcourse, like any good historical novel with > the China of the time. I did proof one or 2 (2, I think), Booker prize > winners. There your criticism, Roger, of the judging panel might be > warranted. The 2 books were interesting more because of the different > styles of writing--where they placed the characters in time and the very > different construction of the plot and setting. One I found very interesting > on a purely intellectual level; I admired the "differentness ": and > cleverness of what the author did. The other was a sort of science fiction > and I didn'dt like it; it wasn't really xcoherent, imo. and I couldn't get > involved with the characters.Like Kim, I l ike to become emotionally > involved with the characters. > Ihaven't read any Doris Lessing > Cindy > > > From: Kim Friedman <mailto:kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:16 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Nobel Prize winners in Literature from 1901 > was Special COllections > > > Hi, Roger, I think it isn't necessarily the snob appeal which might win > someone a prize. I think William Faulkner won for his experimental writing > style and how he tried to narrate the history in a pocket universe he > created, Yoknapatawpha County. Just because he may not be your choice of > reading matter, he must have appealed to some people who really enjoyed his > style of writing and telling a story. It seems to me there are all kinds of > folk who read for a variety of reasons: personally, I read for a good story > and for me this involves caring about and identifying with the characters. I > suppose other people have different criteria. Speaking for myself, I > couldn't enjoy Virginia Woolf's To The Lighthouse because nothing really > happened in the story. Sure, you found out about the interior thoughts and > feelings of the characters, but for me, this wasn't enough to engage my > interest. I suppose there are others who are first caught by the mechanics > the author uses in telling a story and are willing to ferret out what makes > the author appeal to them. They don't have to like the characters (if any), > but they might be delighted in how the author describes the setting or > his/her word usage. I think what really struck me about Winston Graham (I > don't think he ever won the Nobel Prize) was how his word choice, dialog, > and powers of description got me to know the milieu of his stories, his > characters and the interest the author had in them and how he was able to > make me share his interest. In other words, I like someone who can tell a > story. I think readers of literature sometimes get so caught up in whatever > they're experiencing with the author that they forget about the storytelling > part which is so vital to most readers. I suppose there may be some folks > who have snobbery about what constitutes literature with a capital L, but I > wouldn't say that all English teachers forget about the value of > storytelling. I also think that some works require the reader to have a bit > more life experience so they can be fully appreciated. I think I appreciated > Charles Dickens's works when I was older. When I was required to read Great > Expectations in Junior High, I couldn't really get into the story. When I > read him in my thirties, I was struck by how he used words in setting a > scene and how his characters acted. He was quite theatrical. I'm certainly > willing to concede there may be folks who are snobbish or pretentious, who > might read something because it is the done thing or because they feel they > ought to like something but I don't know that the majority of people are > like that. I don't even know if the "intelligentsia" are like that. Regards, > Kim Friedman. > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:44 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Nobel Prize winners in Literature from 1901 > was Special COllections > > > This kind of reinforces my disdain for literary awards. They are based on > the subjective judgements of people who have gotten onto committees by way > of their connections, that is, snob societies. If you happen to share the > tastes of the members of the Nobel Committee then you will agree with their > choices. If you don't then you are likely to think that the Nobel Committee > chooses some incredibly boring authors. I would suggest that if you want to > really enjoy books, that you follow your own interests in reading. If you > want to feel superior to the reading rabble then read the award winners and, > hopefully, you will not be turned off from reading like so many are by > English teachers who assign Literature with a capital L as the only > worthwhile reading material without regard to the students' interests. > > On 3/11/2012 6:52 AM, Cindy wrote: > > At first I thought you are right; then I began to think that maybe it was > awarded for a body of work, so I went to a Nobel.org site and found this: > so I guess it's not one particular book. For Sinclair Lewis I found this: > > > Sinclair Lewis > > The Nobel Prize in Literature 1930 was awarded to Sinclair Lewis "for his > vigorous and graphic art of description and his ability to create, with wit > and humour, new types of characters". > for Pearl Buck I found this: > > > > Facts on the Nobel Prize in Literature > > On 27 November 1895, Alfred Nobel signed his last will and testament, giving > the largest share of his fortune to a series of prizes, the Nobel Prizes. As > described in Nobel's will one part was dedicated to “the person who shall > have produced in the field of literature the most outstanding work in an > ideal direction”. Learn more about the Nobel Prize in Literature from 1901 > to 2011. > > That dosn't make it very clear, though; does "most outstanding work mean one > book or body of work > I checked the Nobel site for Sinclair Lewis and found this: > > The Nobel Prize in Literature 1930 was awarded to Sinclair Lewis "for his > vigorous and graphic art of description and his ability to create, with wit > and humour, new types of characters". > > For Pearl Buck I found this: > > > The Nobel Prize in Literature 1938 was awarded to Pearl Buck "for her rich > and truly epic descriptions of peasant life in China and for her > biographical masterpieces". , . for Pearl Buck I found this: > > The Nobel Prize in Literature 1938 was awarded to Pearl Buck "for her rich > and truly epic descriptions of peasant life in China and for her > biographical masterpieces". and for Rudyard Kipling, this: > > > > > > The Nobel Prize in Literature 1907 was awarded to Rudyard Kipling "in > consideration of the power of observation, originality of imagination, > virility of ideas and remarkable talent for narration which characterize the > creations of this world-famous author".I also learned that Kipling was the > youngest author to receive the prize ( That year The Jungle Book was > mentioned whenhe won. Doris Lessing was the oldest winner, age 88 (I think > it was 2007, but now I don't remembered, even though I just read it. > > I don't hink we'd necessarily have to have all the books a prizewinner > wrote, maybe just one or a few that are representative of the author. It's > odd to hink that The Jungle Book was mentioned when Kipling won when he > wrote so many others--or maybe I'm thinking og pems, like Kim (was that a > book). I know Pearl Book wrot a lot of books about China because I've read > most of them, especially her children's book, The Chinese Children Next > Door). The award mentioned her biographies. I didn't know she wrote > biographies. Her most famous book is probably The Great Earth, but there > were sequels, too which I read--all very good. > Cindy > > > From: Sue Stevens <mailto:siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:55 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Nobel Prize winners in Literature from 1901 > was Special COllections > > > Wow, Cindy! Thanks for all this info!! > > Sue S. > > > From: Cindy <mailto:popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:28 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Nobel Prize winners in Literature from 1901 > was Special COllections > > For those who want more information about the Nobel Prize for Literature, > here's some general info,including a list of all winners since 1901. If > anyone wants to make a project of scanning any of the books we don't have > I'd be happy to proof them, although I don't know how we could do > non-English books unless they have been translated. I knosw there'a at least > one Sinclair Lewis book because I proofed it, and Kipling's poetry is > in,because Amy scanned that and I proofed it. I don't know about his novels; > and I'm sure, though I didn't check that The Good Earth must be in. > Here's the info I copied from online: > > All Nobel Prizes in Literature > > The Nobel Prize in Literature has been awarded 104 times to 108 Nobel > Laureates between 1901 and 2011. All Nobel Prizes in Literature > > The Nobel Prize in Literature has been awarded 104 times to 108 Nobel > Laureates between 1901 and 2011. > > > Here's the list: > > > 2011 > Tomas Tranströmer > 2010 > Mario Vargas Llosa > 2009 > Herta Müller > 2008 > Jean-Marie Gustave Le Clézio > 2007 > Doris Lessing > 2006 > Orhan Pamuk > 2005 > Harold Pinter > 2004 > Elfriede Jelinek > 2003 > John M. Coetzee > 2002 > Imre Kertész > 2001 > Sir Vidiadhar Surajprasad Naipaul > 2000 > Gao Xingjian > 1999 > Günter Grass > 1998 > José Saramago > 1997 > Dario Fo > 1996 > Wislawa Szymborska > 1995 > Seamus Heaney > 1994 > Kenzaburo Oe > 1993 > Toni Morrison > 1992 > Derek Walcott > 1991 > Nadine Gordimer > 1990 > Octavio Paz > 1989 > Camilo José Cela > 1988 > Naguib Mahfouz > 1987 > Joseph Brodsky > 1986 > Wole Soyinka > 1985 > Claude Simon > 1984 > Jaroslav Seifert > 1983 > William Golding > 1982 > Gabriel García Márquez > 1981 > Elias Canetti > 1980 > Czeslaw Milosz > 1979 > Odysseus Elytis > 1978 > Isaac Bashevis Singer > 1977 > Vicente Aleixandre > 1976 > Saul Bellow > 1975 > Eugenio Montale > 1974 > Eyvind Johnson, Harry Martinson > 1973 > Patrick White > 1972 > Heinrich Böll > 1971 > Pablo Neruda > 1970 > Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn > 1969 > Samuel Beckett > 1968 > Yasunari Kawabata > 1967 > Miguel Angel Asturias > 1966 > Shmuel Yosef Agnon, Nelly Sachs > 1965 > Mikhail Aleksandrovich Sholokhov > 1964 > Jean-Paul Sartre > 1963 > Giorgos Seferis > 1962 > John Steinbeck > 1961 > Ivo Andric > 1960 > Saint-John Perse > 1959 > Salvatore Quasimodo > 1958 > Boris Leonidovich Pasternak > 1957 > Albert Camus > 1956 > Juan Ramón Jiménez > 1955 > Halldór Kiljan Laxness > 1954 > Ernest Miller Hemingway > 1953 > Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill > 1952 > François Mauriac > 1951 > Pär Fabian Lagerkvist > 1950 > Earl (Bertrand Arthur William) Russell > 1949 > William Faulkner > 1948 > Thomas Stearns Eliot > 1947 > André Paul Guillaume Gide > 1946 > Hermann Hesse > 1945 > Gabriela Mistral > 1944 > Johannes Vilhelm Jensen > 1943 > No Nobel Prize was awarded this year. The prize money was with 1/3 allocated > to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section. > 1942 > No Nobel Prize was awarded this year. The prize money was with 1/3 allocated > to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section. > 1941 > No Nobel Prize was awarded this year. The prize money was with 1/3 allocated > to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section. > 1940 > No Nobel Prize was awarded this year. The prize money was with 1/3 allocated > to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section. > 1939 > Frans Eemil Sillanpää > 1938 > Pearl Buck > 1937 > Roger Martin du Gard > 1936 > Eugene Gladstone O'Neill > 1935 > No Nobel Prize was awarded this year. The prize money was with 1/3 allocated > to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section. > 1934 > Luigi Pirandello > 1933 > Ivan Alekseyevich Bunin > 1932 > John Galsworthy > 1931 > Erik Axel Karlfeldt > 1930 > Sinclair Lewis > 1929 > Thomas Mann > 1928 > Sigrid Undset > 1927 > Henri Bergson > 1926 > Grazia Deledda > 1925 > George Bernard Shaw > 1924 > Wladyslaw Stanislaw Reymont > 1923 > William Butler Yeats > 1922 > Jacinto Benavente > 1921 > Anatole France > 1920 > Knut Pedersen Hamsun > 1919 > Carl Friedrich Georg Spitteler > 1918 > No Nobel Prize was awarded this year. The prize money was allocated to the > Special Fund of this prize section. > 1917 > Karl Adolph Gjellerup, Henrik Pontoppidan > 1916 > Carl Gustaf Verner von Heidenstam > 1915 > Romain Rolland > 1914 > No Nobel Prize was awarded this year. The prize money was allocated to the > Special Fund of this prize section. > 1913 > Rabindranath Tagore > 1912 > Gerhart Johann Robert Hauptmann > 1911 > Count Maurice (Mooris) Polidore Marie Bernhard Maeterlinck > 1910 > Paul Johann Ludwig Heyse > 1909 > Selma Ottilia Lovisa Lagerlöf > 1908 > Rudolf Christoph Eucken > 1907 > Rudyard Kipling > 1906 > Giosuè Carducci > 1905 > Henryk Sienkiewicz > 1904 > Frédéric Mistral, José Echegaray y Eizaguirre > 1903 > Bjørnstjerne Martinus Bjørnson > 1902 > Christian Matthias Theodor Mommsen > 1901 > Sully Prudhomme > > > And here's the list of all winners since 1901 > > > Cindy > > > From: Mayrie ReNae <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:57 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Special Collections > > > Hi Sue, > > Is Pulitzer Prize the same thing but by a different name? > > If so, you can find the list of books here: > > http://www.bookshare.org/browse/collection/31/Pulitzer%20Prize%20Award%20Win > ners > > Hope that was what you're looking for! > > Mayrie > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:35 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Special Collections > > > Hi All, > > In checking the special collections I do not see the Nobel Literature > prizewinners listed. Am I just missing them, or do we not have them? > > Sue S. > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4863 - Release Date: 03/10/12 > > > > > > -- Currently Reading: The Lost Hero by Rick Riordan and Hex Hall by Rachel Hawkins To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.