[bksvol-discuss] Re: I have a question please and thank you.
- From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:29:58 EDT
It is real easy to tell what is appropriate for a child or anyone else to
read. The interests and capabilities of different children and anyone else
are highly variable so one size does not fit all. The simple way to tell if a
book is appropriate is that if a child chooses it for reading and after
starting to read it continues to read it and, especially, if the child
expresses
a strong interest in it then it is appropriate. If the child does not want
to read it or begins to read it and becomes bored and quits reading it then
it is inappropriate and no harm was done in letting the child find out that
it was inappropriate.
"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies
the end.
" Leon Trotsky
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[bksvol-discuss] Re: I have a question please and thank you.
Date:
9/8/2009 10:30:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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The adult content rating should be checked for the sake of the children--or
at least those who are very young. The question is: Are students who have
access
to Bookshare automatically blocked from seeing adult content books?
Children do manage to see, hear, and read what may not be appropriate for them,
but
does that mean that Bookshare should be another way for them to gain access
to explicit material? How would you define what are considered "childrens
books?"
What about students in middle or high school? Should they be stuck reading
"childrens books"--especially when literature classes expand to include
Shakespeare
and some British and American classics? I know many adults who enjoy
childrens books while taking pleasure in books of a more serious nature or on
subjects
that are too complicated for young children to understand. Adults should
not be limited to just reading adult books since there are books on a wide
variety
of subjects that do not involve explicit content. Right now, the Bookshare
volunteer manual states: "Please use your best judgment for determining
adult
content. While we understand and respect that different people have
different standards for what is acceptable subject matter, a general guideline
to
consider
is this: in a large well-stocked bookstore, would somebody under the age of
18 be able to get this book off the shelf, pay for it, and walk away. Books
of an obvious explicit sexual nature or that incite hate should be
considered adult content. If unsure, mark the book as Adult Content, and
explain in
one or two sentences what about the content of the book warrants this
selection in the comments field." (Section 5, Guidelines for Marking Books
"Adult")
There are several things to notice about this statement. First, would
minors be able to walk away with the book in a sstandard, well-stocked
bookstore?
Bookshare is a large bookstore of sorts with over 50,000 books on a wide
variety of subjects that is accessible to both minors and adults. Books that
are
of obvious explicit sexual nature or incite hate should be marked, so in
many instances, perhaps the rating is given too liberally. However, it is
Bookshare's
decision to rate the book as having adult content and the statement
encourages proofreaders to give an explanation of why they think an adult
rating
should
be given even if they are not sure. On the other hand, it is probably all
right for proofreaders to state why a book is not adult content even if the
tool
gave it that rating. In short, We don't have the responsibility of
determining whether a book is or is not adult content and some may be more
hasty to
give the rating than others, but we can offer our opinions.
Chanelle
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I have a question please and thank you.
It is real easy to tell what is adult content. I can read a book and see
very quickly whether the author was intending to write for children or adults.
The ones that are clearly intended for children should be placed in the
children's category and the ones that are intended for adults should not.
Checking
the adult designation for any book is effectively censorship so it should
never be checked.
"The end
may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end.
" Leon Trotsky
The Militant:
http://www.themilitant.com
Pathfinder Press:
http://www.pathfinderpress.com
Granma International:
http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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[bksvol-discuss] Re: I have a question please and thank you.
Date:
9/8/2009 5:38:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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Some of the problem might be the definition of adult content. And for that
there has never been any agreement. I recently submitted a book and I marked
it as having adult content, but when it was put into the library, it is
marked as not having adult content. So I don't know if it was the admin staff
or
what. However, like I said, the courts have never been able to agree upon
what is and what isn't so I don't think we will here either.
Denise
At 05:22 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote:
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You would think so, but alas I have no adult content selected and I got a
pretty racy novel with sex scenes and it was not ticked as adult, so it must
be
kind of hit or miss.
Take care!
Valerie
Please pray for Doug's Dad & visit his website:
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billkoonce
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I have a question please and thank you.
If I go up and make sure my settings are set to no adult content, does
that mean when I go into the new books or brose any category that only books
with
only no adult content will come up or will other books slip through?
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