[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help, my computer took a turn for the worse

  • From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:33:24 -0400

Dear Cat Lover Lori, Grand Cindy, and Booksharian Friends,

Omygosh, it worked! Thank you Thank you.!
It seems so long ago that I was learning to insert accents. The ae diphthong, in word, can be made by holding control and shift down and keying number 7. Now I remember that I brought on the cloud of paragraph signs way back then when my finger tapped the 8 instead of the 7. Back then it was a similar uproar until my kind helpers figured out how I was infesting my document with those signs.
I became so successful through being careful, that I created scads of ayeez accurately, giving myself time to forget that 8 with a control and shift could become a trick key!
You made a good point, Lori, mentioning how helpful it is to hear those paragraph markers when pre validating or validating. I've been hearing them with jaws when I read by character using the arrow keys because it says blank where there is a hard return which, I believe is the same thing as a paragraph marker. the 1 on the num pad is another way to specifically check ends of lines for hard returns because it hops the cursor to the end of the line instantly where it only takes an arrow or two to see what's going on there.
Now that you've jogged my memory and I realize it's not a catastrophe having those signs, I'm going to experiment with validating with them there because as jaws reads the words, it says new paragraph automatically which will save me from checking manually. I think This frustrating day will end with my acquisition of an extremely valuable auditory validating tool. You not only told me how to solve my problem, you taught me to use it as an asset instead of thinking of it as a plague.
By the way, to indicate a blank line in the text, I place an asterisk on it with this note to readers between the preliminary pages and the text
[Note to readers: An asterisk, * stands for a blank line between blocks of text to show a change of scene, passage of time, change in point of view or anything set apart from the previous text.]
Since we make the asterisk with shift 8 and it was four in the morning, I apparently pressed control shift and 8 by mistake.
This doesn't account for my darker screen, but since I only look at it when JAWS doesn't seem to be saying everything at a web site, the twilight won't slow my validating. Those are wonderful things about certain activities like validating, knitting and cooking. You can do them with some exceptions, without vision, making those activities very restful.
Thanks to all of you who helped for showing me the right turn. I admit I caused those symbols and blaming my computer was unfair. 

Always with love,

Lissi
Grand Cindy, if your friend is having trouble working back and forth with word 2003 and 2007, then it'll serve my sanity best if I resist buying that Gateway from HSN tomorrow! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Lori Castner" <mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:02 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help, my computer took a turn for the worse



Lissi,

It is control+shift+8 that will show all; it's a toggle.

Cat Lover Lori
----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 2:32 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help, my computer took a turn for the worse



Dear Mary Ann, Cat Lover Lori Jackie, and Grand Cindy,

I'm ascared!
Control 8 didn't change anything. Maybe I'm supposed to be doing something before I press control 8. I opened another book from my queue and it didn't have those half lollipops jaws calls New Paragraph in a high voice. Only the book I really wanted to finish today has them!
I was going to copy my file as text, but don't know where to put it and just whimped out.
I went to the boxes Jackie talked about and didn't know what to check or uncheck, but I think there was a box for paragraph markers and it was not checked, so why do I have the markers. Now I think maybe I should have highlighted the whole mess before pressing control 8. I just don't know. Now that I see the Sweet Valley Twins Book I have isn't messed up, I'll work on that, or on this wonderful biography of Jane Austin which I just got in print from the library today so can finally start.
If Evan wasn't off covering the Amusement parks and fireworks circuits in Pennsylvania he would either help me or council patience and convince me again that computers are wonderful and are getting better all of the time and that I'm not as computer impaired as I think I am. He is so right about a lot of things, but in his denial that I'm computer impaired. I do have a bad case of that.
I'm off to gratefully take Jackie up on her offer of help, though I think discovering why my computer acts out is a lost cause. I don't even know where that brightness preference thing is so I could tell it not to look so dark and dismal as if it is having a personal brown out! Whoa is me!
I do have a plan for chilling. I have a hard copy of the fourth book in the Mitford series from the 
Wisconsin braille volunteers.
They are also selling Gateway Computers all day on Home Shoppers tomorrow. I'll buy a laptop which I want because I'd love to validate on my backyard swing or hammock, or couch or anywhere that isn't my office chair. But how would I ever learn Vista and Word 2007? I can already see me using the 30 day return option and swearing to keep my current computer working for the next 50 years!! 

Always with love,

Lissi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Anne Lynskey" <yeksnyl1953am@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 2:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help, my computer took a turn for the worse
Lissi, when I get a bunch of junk like that I'd consider saving the file as TXT. First though, you want to replace your page breaks with something like qqq so that when you reconvert again, you can have the qqq where the page breaks used to be. then, save as txt. Then, close the file. Go to Windows 
Explorer, find your txt document and right click.  use the open with and
choose word as the program to open the file.  Now that you are in word
again, replace the qqq with the page break.  I usually replace with
^p^p^m^p^p which will put a few blank lines before and after the page
breaks. Don't forget to back up your original file before doing any of this 
so that you have it, just in case something goes wrong.
You should have your page breaks back now and can save as RTF. I hope this 
helps.

--
Mary Anne Lynskey

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