Anything over 45 minutes from my home. At quiet periods of the day or evening it can take as little as twenty five minutes. Given that the trip can take well over an hour depending on the traffic light fiascos we have near my home (it can take forty minutes to get through two intersections alone) and I drive a Falcon. That kind of enforced driving is damaging to the atmosphere, damaging to the vehicle, is stressful and just plain wasteful; I don't think its unreasonable. Having been privileged to sit in a Canberra peak recently; then attempt to compare to Sydney is beyond ridiculous, you just can't do it. I wouldn't be bothered down where you are. But I might charge them extra if there were no storage and shower or change facilities for cyclists. Regards Warren Lewington Technical Writer Compliance and Enforcement Branch ________________________________ From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Silcock Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2010 3:33 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Welcome aboard, Rob : sequed towards remote work... Warren said: > I am charging them for anything over what I call a reasonable time to commute Could you tell what a 'reasonable time' would be, or is that commercial-in-confidence? (I guess what's reasonable in Sydney would be very different from what's reasonable here in Canberra!) Howard On 9 June 2010 15:18, LEWINGTON Warren <Warren_LEWINGTON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Warren_LEWINGTON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: One of my current clients in Windsor is positively medieval about working from home, it takes over half an hour to get permission to do it, yet they are more than happy for the permanents to do it, some of whom live within walking distance of the workplace. So now, when I travel out there, I am charging them for anything over what I call a reasonable time to commute. I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with it. Regards Warren Lewington Technical Writer Compliance and Enforcement Branch -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Andrew Jeffery Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2010 2:58 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: atw: Re: Welcome aboard, Rob : sequed towards remote work... As a contractor, I have had the same problem. Some managers are great while other equate 'working from home' as a day off. Surely as roads and public transport are more congested, as well as rents going up, they will be forced to consider it more. I love working from home and I achieve more. Bring it on. On Wed, Jun 9th, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Allan Charlton <allancharlton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:allancharlton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > Peter said > > As far as I can see, the main cause of this is that managers have > no idea of how to measure productivity unless someone arrives in the > office > at 9 and leaves at 5 or some appropriate later time. It's a threat > to > managerial control somehow, apparently. > > That's been my experience. I have approached a few employers and > received one or other of what appear to be stock answers: > "If you're not here we can't be sure you're working" > "Nobody works from home. It's policy." > > Managers get progress updates, and most of us attend project meetings > - > and yet they claim they don't know we're working if they can't watch > us typing. I once posted a cartoon on my cubicle, in which Dilbert > points out that it doesn't matter whether he's at home or in the > office because the manager doesn't know if he's working when he's in > the office. > Management got offended and took the cartoon down, so I guess it made > > its point. > > Allan > ************************************************** > To view the austechwriter archives, go to > www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter<//www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter> > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field (without quotes). > > To manage your subscription (e.g., set and unset DIGEST and VACATION > modes) go to > www.freelists.org/list/austechwriter<//www.freelists.org/list/austechwriter> > > To contact the list administrator, send a message to > austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ************************************************** > > > ************************************************** To view the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter<//www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter> To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field (without quotes). 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