atw: Re: The Queen's English? - now OFF TOPIC
- From: "Matthew da Silva" <mdasilva@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:30:29 +1000
"a young person who hasn't yet come to realise that the media is all about fuss
with no substance"
This is a common trope of some members of the middle classes in liberal
democracies. It is quite erroneous. You would certainly miss the media if they
were shut down by the authorities, as they routinely are in many countries.
There is also a recurring theme here about signifiers and signifieds. I'm no
expert in postmodernism, but because humans are essentially social animals and
language is an innate skill, to say that the words you use change nothing is
simply naïve. There may be 'spin' applied (I think that's what you mean)
instead of a more 'natural' use of language. But if you make the effort to
learn about, say, linguistics or sociology, the 'spin' itself suddenly becomes
semantically rich.
The post-industrial world is chock-a-block with professional communicators who
apply 'spin' to various types of event or issue. However, the better-equipped
members of the middle classes are able to 'see through' or 'unpack' the spinned
texts. Some people are not, but members of this list will be. Rather than
blaming the media or politicians, I think that we need to look at advanced
education as an enabling tactic.
Matthew
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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hallett, Michelle
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 6:18 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: The Queen's English? - now OFF TOPIC
Not sure I agree with you there Christine. I can understand that any 20 year
old woman had stars in her eyes about marriage, even an aristocratic one. Add
to that the media fuss and a young person who hasn't yet come to realise that
the media is all about fuss with no substance.
I think Charles didn't have the guts to challenge mummy and daddy when he first
met Camilla and they said she wasn't suitable to be Queen. So they all took
advantage of naive 20 year old Diana. It took Diana's death to make changes to
all of them and I think both Charles and Camilla owe her.
Michelle
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From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christine Kent
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 2:39 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: The Queen's English? - now OFF TOPIC
My God!!! You girls are Sooooooo nasty. There is nothing funny in abusing a
woman who does not stimulate stereotypical male fantasies.
My respect for Charles went UP over the Camilla thing. A man saw virtue in a
mature age woman who was his emotional and intellectual equal, and was bored
witless with the silly little "princess" who failed to understand what everyone
else knew, that she was no more than a brood mare. She was brought up as a
aristocrat so had no excuse for not understanding how the royals have always
conducted their marriages. Poor little Mary is discovering that little truth
now too - but she has more excuse for believing in the fairytale princess myth
than Dianna had - at least she was not raised in those circles.
It's good that one man one earth has some depth. Gives us hope that there may
be some more. Ahhh, Charlie, the man of my dreams!
ck
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From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hope, Debbie
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 4:23 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: The Queen's English? - now OFF TOPIC
Thanks Matilda--
You summed it up perfectly with one word - 'adulterer'. I was actually
going to add 'cow' in there somewhere as well.
Debbie
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From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MATILDA REICH
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 4:18 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: The Queen's English?
It's not harsh, it's funny! Everyone knows bonnie Prince Charlie loves
his horses, even two legged ones.
The demise of Diana had more to do with her brain, emotional stability,
marrying an adulterer at such a tender age, than her looks. Poor lass.
>>> slb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 22/05/07 4:04 pm >>>
Jeez, Debbie, that's a bit harsh.
Would you say that to her face? To anyone?
I have zero interest in things royal, but Diana Spencer was good
looking
and look where that all ended up.
Stuart
Debbie Hope said:
> Camilla the Fugly
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