atw: Re: Master/sub-documents and corruptions.

damn right.

Chris.
 
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> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Lewington, Warren J (WT)
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 3:16 PM
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: Master/sub-documents and corruptions. 
> 
> Oh, lets all face it, MS Word is at times woefully inadequate 
> and requires all these un-written, undocumented "rules" to 
> work. The ten caveats I suggest were probably in the minds of 
> the developers when they were piecing the master/sub-document 
> architecture and code together - because boy, when you use 
> them the whole shebang works really well. I strongly suspect 
> it was just never documented within MS Word in the first 
> place - I mean if they had spent the time with that 
> documentation like the Fields help they would go through the 
> ten caveats. Also consider the misunderstandings about Styles 
> and Formatting in general.
> 
> Yeah, look the process does seem complicated, but, at the end 
> of the day, the ten caveats that I provide there are pretty 
> basic stuff. And the 10 items are functions that we all use, 
> to varying degrees loosely and tightly, whenever we are 
> working in Word. 
> 
> My main point is to be rigorous when using 
> master/sub-documents. And ABSOLUTELY!
> These are not for the faint hearted, or the person trying to 
> get something done quickly. It takes planning and some 
> cooperative organisation. The more people involved, the more 
> planning and cooperation. 
> 
> My secondary point is to ensure people understand that 
> master/sub-documents can work and are a useful tool when 
> applied properly. I am not a prophet suggesting that we all 
> should paradigm shift and start using them and bugger 
> everything else. 
> 
> Just, when you do, do it properly, and do it well. Like, 
> isn't that what we are supposed to be doing as professionals???
> 
> Remember; keep your mind open to all possibilities.
> 
> Regards,
> Warren 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Suzy
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 14:47
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: Master/sub-documents and corruptions. 
> 
> 
> 
> Warren!
> LOL - this is going to keep me going for a week I reckon.
> Have you read your post?
> 
> Do you really think that a piece of software that needs all 
> these undocumented rules to be followed and manually 
> implemented by the author in order to ensure that the 
> software a) works as expected and b)enables the author to 
> publish or retrieve the documents in a reliable and 
> predictable way; ie in a way that does not significantly 
> disrupt the work process?
> 
> This is how you would design it??
> 
> Forgive me, but sometimes I think we are working with these 
> tools for so long that we just get used to being an expert; 
> and believe that knowing the workarounds and the over-rides 
> to achieve a predictable result it's all good.
> 
> I don't use Master docs, but I do see my reaction in the 
> faces of my customers when I confidently tell them what they 
> need to do to have trouble free documents in Microsoft Word.
> 
> Thank you for the reminder.  Gold, pure gold.
> 
> I'm with the MVP site.
> 
> And thank you for documenting all those caveats so that I 
> will know what to do should a customer inflict their master doc on me.
> 
> regards
> Suzy
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