atw: Re: Master/sub-documents and corruptions.
- From: "Chris lofting" <lofting@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:23:07 +1000
damn right.
Chris.
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> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Lewington, Warren J (WT)
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 3:16 PM
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> Subject: atw: Re: Master/sub-documents and corruptions.
>
> Oh, lets all face it, MS Word is at times woefully inadequate
> and requires all these un-written, undocumented "rules" to
> work. The ten caveats I suggest were probably in the minds of
> the developers when they were piecing the master/sub-document
> architecture and code together - because boy, when you use
> them the whole shebang works really well. I strongly suspect
> it was just never documented within MS Word in the first
> place - I mean if they had spent the time with that
> documentation like the Fields help they would go through the
> ten caveats. Also consider the misunderstandings about Styles
> and Formatting in general.
>
> Yeah, look the process does seem complicated, but, at the end
> of the day, the ten caveats that I provide there are pretty
> basic stuff. And the 10 items are functions that we all use,
> to varying degrees loosely and tightly, whenever we are
> working in Word.
>
> My main point is to be rigorous when using
> master/sub-documents. And ABSOLUTELY!
> These are not for the faint hearted, or the person trying to
> get something done quickly. It takes planning and some
> cooperative organisation. The more people involved, the more
> planning and cooperation.
>
> My secondary point is to ensure people understand that
> master/sub-documents can work and are a useful tool when
> applied properly. I am not a prophet suggesting that we all
> should paradigm shift and start using them and bugger
> everything else.
>
> Just, when you do, do it properly, and do it well. Like,
> isn't that what we are supposed to be doing as professionals???
>
> Remember; keep your mind open to all possibilities.
>
> Regards,
> Warren
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Suzy
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 14:47
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: Master/sub-documents and corruptions.
>
>
>
> Warren!
> LOL - this is going to keep me going for a week I reckon.
> Have you read your post?
>
> Do you really think that a piece of software that needs all
> these undocumented rules to be followed and manually
> implemented by the author in order to ensure that the
> software a) works as expected and b)enables the author to
> publish or retrieve the documents in a reliable and
> predictable way; ie in a way that does not significantly
> disrupt the work process?
>
> This is how you would design it??
>
> Forgive me, but sometimes I think we are working with these
> tools for so long that we just get used to being an expert;
> and believe that knowing the workarounds and the over-rides
> to achieve a predictable result it's all good.
>
> I don't use Master docs, but I do see my reaction in the
> faces of my customers when I confidently tell them what they
> need to do to have trouble free documents in Microsoft Word.
>
> Thank you for the reminder. Gold, pure gold.
>
> I'm with the MVP site.
>
> And thank you for documenting all those caveats so that I
> will know what to do should a customer inflict their master doc on me.
>
> regards
> Suzy
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