Oh, lets all face it, MS Word is at times woefully inadequate and requires all these un-written, undocumented "rules" to work. The ten caveats I suggest were probably in the minds of the developers when they were piecing the master/sub-document architecture and code together - because boy, when you use them the whole shebang works really well. I strongly suspect it was just never documented within MS Word in the first place - I mean if they had spent the time with that documentation like the Fields help they would go through the ten caveats. Also consider the misunderstandings about Styles and Formatting in general. Yeah, look the process does seem complicated, but, at the end of the day, the ten caveats that I provide there are pretty basic stuff. And the 10 items are functions that we all use, to varying degrees loosely and tightly, whenever we are working in Word. My main point is to be rigorous when using master/sub-documents. And ABSOLUTELY! These are not for the faint hearted, or the person trying to get something done quickly. It takes planning and some cooperative organisation. The more people involved, the more planning and cooperation. My secondary point is to ensure people understand that master/sub-documents can work and are a useful tool when applied properly. I am not a prophet suggesting that we all should paradigm shift and start using them and bugger everything else. Just, when you do, do it properly, and do it well. Like, isn't that what we are supposed to be doing as professionals??? Remember; keep your mind open to all possibilities. Regards, Warren -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Suzy Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 14:47 To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Master/sub-documents and corruptions. Warren! LOL - this is going to keep me going for a week I reckon. Have you read your post? Do you really think that a piece of software that needs all these undocumented rules to be followed and manually implemented by the author in order to ensure that the software a) works as expected and b)enables the author to publish or retrieve the documents in a reliable and predictable way; ie in a way that does not significantly disrupt the work process? This is how you would design it?? Forgive me, but sometimes I think we are working with these tools for so long that we just get used to being an expert; and believe that knowing the workarounds and the over-rides to achieve a predictable result it's all good. I don't use Master docs, but I do see my reaction in the faces of my customers when I confidently tell them what they need to do to have trouble free documents in Microsoft Word. Thank you for the reminder. Gold, pure gold. I'm with the MVP site. And thank you for documenting all those caveats so that I will know what to do should a customer inflict their master doc on me. regards Suzy ************************************************** To view the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field (without quotes). To manage your subscription (e.g., set and unset DIGEST and VACATION modes) go to www.freelists.org/list/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************