atw: Re: Lessons learnt or Lessons learned?
- From: Ilana Cohney <idcohney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:40:07 +1100
Rod,
You are correct. This document is one of the final project closeout
documents I have to complete. The Project Management Office have a
number of project template documents that we have to complete - one of
them is titled "Lessons Learnt". I did not think this is correct, so
decided to verify it with the "experts". Now, I will have to put in a
project variation form to suggest this template is renamed "Lessons
Learned" - don't we all love company processes.
Thank you all for your help.
Ilana
Rod Stuart wrote:
The term "lessons learned", or in the Southern Hemoisphere "lessons
learnt" is global project managment terminology.
It refers to one of the outputs of project closeout process group, and
entails a project team workshop in which we list all of the things we
did this time that we want to be sure to do on the next project, as
well as all of those things which we did do and vow not to do the next
time. The deliverable of this workshop is an organisational process
asset we entitle "Lessons Learned". (or learnt as the case may be).
Ideally, in progressive organisations intent of delivering continuous
improvement, the information from teh workshop gets collated and
process in a relational database for easy future access.
The process very much resembles that process in Judochristian theology
called "Confession".
On 12/12/2007, *Brian A Clarke* <brianclarke01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:brianclarke01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Ilana,
I'm interested to discover who is writing this document and what
relation
this writer has to those who are alleged to have learned. I have
found this
construction 'Lessons learnt' used mostly by teachers as some kind of
surrogate for not having checked what pupils did actually learn,
ie, it's a
description of what the teacher hoped got across. For such cases,
the better
construction would be 'teaching objectives' [the teacher's aims] or
'learning outcomes' [what the teacher hopes the learners will get].
Quite apart from whether a word is Old English or Middle English, a
different aim may be to use the fewest letters to convey a meaning
clearly.
But the superior goal would be to use the language of the audience
- based
on a recent, accurate user analysis that sits beside your keyboard.
Brian.
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On 12/12/2007, *Brian A Clarke* <brianclarke01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:brianclarke01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Ilana,
I'm interested to discover who is writing this document and what
relation
this writer has to those who are alleged to have learned. I have
found this
construction 'Lessons learnt' used mostly by teachers as some kind of
surrogate for not having checked what pupils did actually learn,
ie, it's a
description of what the teacher hoped got across. For such cases,
the better
construction would be 'teaching objectives' [the teacher's aims] or
'learning outcomes' [what the teacher hopes the learners will get].
Quite apart from whether a word is Old English or Middle English, a
different aim may be to use the fewest letters to convey a meaning
clearly.
But the superior goal would be to use the language of the audience
- based
on a recent, accurate user analysis that sits beside your keyboard.
Brian.
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(08) 9204 2957
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(042) 813 5605
- atw: any filenet+word gurus?
- From: Steven Parkes
- atw: Lessons learnt or Lessons learned?
- From: Ilana Cohney
- atw: Re: Lessons learnt or Lessons learned?
- From: Brian A Clarke
- atw: Re: Lessons learnt or Lessons learned?
- From: Rod Stuart