Do you have design shop? I am wondering if you could use the auto outline function and use a density of 5 or 6 and make the lettering and outline the same color as the fleece then duplicate just the lettering and sew it over the now matted down fleece in the contrasting color you chose. and the top letters like Roland said, I wouldn't use lower than 4 density. you just need to get the fleece to pull back and allow you to see the embroidered lettering. You might give it a try, and if you have the skill you could just use the outline portion and not the fill for the under base part. I would also use a zigzag stitch for the underlay. Good luck. Ron Vinyard Body Cover / Magic Stitches 1-888-435-0176 541-471-1504 fax 471-0427 420 SW H street Grants Pass, OR 97526 info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.bodycoverdesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: image embriodery To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: serious help needed!! Herb, I tried a MT that high and the thread was bouncing all over the place! I've got the cut away and the solvy, too. Font is Juliette Script, one inch high, added a center walk and increased pull comp to 180%. The letters are just getting lost in the fleece! I can't figure it out. Oh, the density is set at 2.8. Any suggestions?? Thanks.. LuAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: HK Acree To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: serious help needed!! LuAnn, Ran some couple weeks ago. MT about 18 with 2 oz. cut-away. Solvy on top. Used 15 cm hoop. Will be here if you need help. Herb 208-746-0448 ----- Original Message ----- From: image embriodery To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 7:30 AM Subject: [amayausers] serious help needed!! Just when I thought it was over. BAM!!! I cannot run this caps for anything.. Has anyone run the fleece hats from Sanmar? They are looking like P**P! PLEASE!!! Any suggestions would be so greatly appreciated!!! LuAnn @ Image Embroidery Because Your "Image" Matters