LuAnn, I think its your density- 2.8 is way too tight! Have you tried it up around 4? If it is 'fleece' hats and not the knit hats (still having problems with those...) then I'd treat it like a fleece sweatshirt-if you set it too tight it's just going to pull right into the fabric. I just did a couple high loft fleece vests-and it was up around 8 for MT, and lettering was at 4.2 for density. 2 layers of 1 oz. tear away, and solvy on top. Still pulled into the fabric some, but with the 'cordoroy' look of the fleece not much I can do about it. I have a dozen fleece vests to go-but they are Sanmar fleece and it is a smoother face. I've never run anything below even 3.5 for any type of lettering or design-that seems to be way too tight for me. Anyone else jump in here-am I in the right ballpark or not? Roland From: "image embriodery" <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:48:12 -0500 To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [amayausers] Re: serious help needed!! Herb, I tried a MT that high and the thread was bouncing all over the place! I've got the cut away and the solvy, too. Font is Juliette Script, one inch high, added a center walk and increased pull comp to 180%. The letters are just getting lost in the fleece! I can't figure it out. Oh, the density is set at 2.8. Any suggestions?? Thanks.. LuAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: HK Acree <mailto:hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: serious help needed!! LuAnn, Ran some couple weeks ago. MT about 18 with 2 oz. cut-away. Solvy on top. Used 15 cm hoop. Will be here if you need help. Herb 208-746-0448 ----- Original Message ----- From: image embriodery <mailto:imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 7:30 AM Subject: [amayausers] serious help needed!! Just when I thought it was over. BAM!!! I cannot run this caps for anything.. Has anyone run the fleece hats from Sanmar? They are looking like P**P! PLEASE!!! Any suggestions would be so greatly appreciated!!! LuAnn @ Image Embroidery Because Your "Image" Matters