Oooh, oooh, let me, let me!!! Terri, I agree with everything Herb and Roland said. Very well put. My turn... I use this analogy when describing top thread tensions to my customers (I'm a tech) who are running the older conventional machines. However I think it applies to bobbin tension as well. Imagine for a moment that you are hand embroidering with a needle and thread. After you pass the needle through the fabric to make one complete stitch, how tight are you going to pull on the thread to finish that stitch??? Pull too tight and you run the risk of tight stitches, puckered fabric, stretched thread and possibly thread breaks, etc... Don't pull tight enough and you wind up with looping threads in your embroidery. In short, you want just enough of a gentle drag on the bobbin thread/tension to pull the slack out of the top thread and through whatever type of fabric you are sewing on. And remember, the Amaya doesn't have top thread tension to counter act against. The Amaya spits out thread and the bobbin tension is supposed to take up the slack in that thread under the fabric. ***Always set your bobbin tension with the bobbin thread NOT in the pig tail spring and ALWAYS make sure it's clean!!! Just the basics. Hope this gives a different perspective on the subject. Ed Orantes Amaya, EMT, & EMC Tech New Orleans, La. ? 504-258-6260 -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:46 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Bobbin Tension ?? Hi All, Would someone have the time to explain the results and consequences of: 1) too tight tension in bobbin 2) too loose tension in bobbin In trying for improvements and educated guesses about what to alter when having problems or not liking the looks of the embroidery I thought this would be good place to start. I'm not talking about extreme tension changes. For example, sometimes I let the bobbin "drop" a little bit looser than other times. Just experimenting, but did not know where to "draw the line". Thanks, Terri Hoover Embroidery Creations