It's called the "Jot a Dot" - more information at http://www.jotadot.com.au/ It uses A5 or A6 sheets of braille paper, not tape. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELEANOR BURKE Sent: 20 July 2009 01:22 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers Am I right in thinking that the jotter uses that tape type of paper so it would not be like a Perkins then? Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gallagher" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers > very interesting our perkins has broken so I will look at the jotta as > well. must find info on it. Pat does not use computers so this may be the > answer. At 15:43 18/07/2009, you wrote: >>Patricia, many thanks. This jot a dot seems far more portable and is only >>a >>third of the price of a perkins. I will have to look into it further, >> >>Regards, >> >>Mark Threadgold >> >>Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... >>-----Original Message----- >>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>Of >>Patricia Fraser >>Sent: 18 July 2009 14:50 >>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers >> >>Hi Mark, >> >>Declaring a commercial interest here... >> >>There's the Jot a Dot - mechanical braillewriter, £150 in the UK from >>either Quantum or the RNIB catalogue. >> >>All the best, >> >>-- >>Patricia Fraser Tel: +44 (0)160 470 5680 >>International Sales Manager Fax: +44 (0)870 705 9646 >>Quantum Technology UK Web: www.quantech.com.au >>47 Thomas Chapman Grove Company Reg. No. 6362217 >>Northampton NN4 8RQ VAT No. 907 3486 13 >> Company incorporated in England and Wales >> >> >>Mark Threadgold wrote: >> > So thanks for the debate on the price, guys, but are there any other >>similar >> > devices out there?! I have found several others on the web but cannot >>find >> > anything in the uk for comparison or price etc. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Mark Threadgold >> > >> > Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> > Behalf >>Of >> > john coley >> > Sent: 18 July 2009 14:09 >> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers >> > >> > Hi Derek, I likewise got my perkins years ago for a fraction of its >>current >> > price. Although I'm with you to a degree on the supply and demand thing >>they >> > >> > nevertheless have a world wide monopoly, something that other companies >> > don't have. Like you I paid hundreds of pounds for my first printer >> > back >>in >> > 92, and my current one was only 50, but look at the tiny share of the >> > printer market each company's got. >> > Another thing to consider is that unlike high tech equipment, which >> > has >> > evolved over the years, driven by competition, and so have ongoing >>research >> > and development costs the perkins, a low tech thing is just the same as >> > it >> >> > was when they started. >> > Even the new look model, which they brought out a year or so ago is >> > the >> > same old low tech. If it wasn't for the fact that if people want a >> > braille >> >> > writer they have to buy a perkins the price would be a fraction of what >> > it >> >> > is. At least now we have access to other formats, we don't need to use >> > braille. >> > There is also the possibility that the grossly inflated price has cut >> > demand. >> > John. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:01 PM >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers >> > >> > >> > Hi John >> > I agree with you partly! However, could price not depend on Supply and >> > demand! The more the demand for a product, the lower The production >> > costs >> > would be. >> > >> > When I bought my HP laser printer about 15 or so years ago it cost me >> > About £700 but now one can buy a good laser jet for about £100 or just >>over. >> > So why the price drop? >> > Because the demand is far higher now! >> > >> > So as for the Perkins, the demand is far lower now, that will Push up >> > production costs. >> > >> > Anyway, my perkins cost about £14 pounds! >> > It was given to me by my mum over 40 years ago! >> > And still works great. >> > >> > Regards, Derek >> >>** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>** and in the Subject line type >>** unsubscribe >>** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>** immediately-following link:- >>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>** or send a message, to >>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >>** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>** and in the Subject line type >>** unsubscribe >>** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>** immediately-following link:- >>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>** or send a message, to >>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. 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