[access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:32:07 +0100

It's called the "Jot a Dot" - more information at
http://www.jotadot.com.au/ 

It uses A5 or A6 sheets of braille paper, not tape.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of ELEANOR BURKE
Sent: 20 July 2009 01:22
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers

Am I right in thinking that the jotter uses that tape type of paper so
it 
would not be like a Perkins then?

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Gallagher" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:30 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers


> very interesting our perkins has broken so I will look at the jotta
as 
> well. must find info on it. Pat does not use computers so this may
be the 
> answer. At 15:43 18/07/2009, you wrote:
>>Patricia, many thanks.  This jot a dot seems far more portable and
is only 
>>a
>>third of the price of a perkins.  I will have to look into it
further,
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Mark Threadgold
>>
>>Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my
mind...
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf 
>>Of
>>Patricia Fraser
>>Sent: 18 July 2009 14:50
>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers
>>
>>Hi Mark,
>>
>>Declaring a commercial interest here...
>>
>>There's the Jot a Dot - mechanical braillewriter, £150 in the UK
from
>>either Quantum or the RNIB catalogue.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>--
>>Patricia Fraser                    Tel: +44 (0)160 470 5680
>>International Sales Manager        Fax: +44 (0)870 705 9646
>>Quantum Technology UK              Web: www.quantech.com.au
>>47 Thomas Chapman Grove            Company Reg. No. 6362217
>>Northampton NN4 8RQ                     VAT No. 907 3486 13
>>         Company incorporated in England and Wales
>>
>>
>>Mark Threadgold wrote:
>> > So thanks for the debate on the price, guys, but are there any
other
>>similar
>> > devices out there?!  I have found several others on the web but
cannot
>>find
>> > anything in the uk for comparison or price etc.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Mark Threadgold
>> >
>> > Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my
mind...
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

>> > Behalf
>>Of
>> > john coley
>> > Sent: 18 July 2009 14:09
>> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers
>> >
>> > Hi Derek, I likewise got my perkins years ago for a fraction of
its
>>current
>> > price. Although I'm with you to a degree on the supply and demand
thing
>>they
>> >
>> > nevertheless have a world wide monopoly, something that other
companies
>> > don't have. Like you I paid hundreds of pounds for my first
printer 
>> > back
>>in
>> > 92, and my current one was only 50, but look at the tiny share of
the
>> > printer market each company's got.
>> >   Another thing to consider is that unlike high tech equipment,
which 
>> > has
>> > evolved over the years, driven by competition, and so have
ongoing
>>research
>> > and development costs the perkins, a low tech thing is just the
same as 
>> > it
>>
>> > was when they started.
>> >   Even the new look model, which they brought out a year or so
ago is 
>> > the
>> > same old low tech. If it wasn't for the fact that if people want
a 
>> > braille
>>
>> > writer they have to buy a perkins the price would be a fraction
of what 
>> > it
>>
>> > is. At least now we have access to other formats, we don't need
to use
>> > braille.
>> >   There is also the possibility that the grossly inflated price
has cut
>> > demand.
>> >                     John.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:01 PM
>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi John
>> > I agree with you partly! However, could price not depend on
Supply and
>> > demand! The more the demand for  a product, the lower The
production 
>> > costs
>> > would be.
>> >
>> > When I bought my HP laser printer about 15 or so  years ago it
cost me
>> > About £700 but now one can buy a good laser jet for about £100 or
just
>>over.
>> > So why the price drop?
>> > Because the  demand is far higher now!
>> >
>> > So as for the Perkins,  the demand is far lower now, that will
Push up
>> > production costs.
>> >
>> > Anyway, my  perkins  cost about £14 pounds!
>> > It was given to me by my mum over 40 years ago!
>> > And still works great.
>> >
>> > Regards,  Derek
>>
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