[access-uk] Re: My experience with the Touch at the Apple store

hi Carol - thanks for the thought. I did indeed take the 2 pair of headphones I use regularly, and that are good quality. I know what you mean about how they can vary in power, that's why I didn't leave it to chance -


Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 9:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experience with the Touch at the Apple store


Andy, I've also found that headphones vary quite a lot in their volume output and how they interact with the various equipment we choose to use them with, so it may be a good idea to take along a selection of the ones you use so that you can test out this way, if you didn't already do this.

In addition, there's a small megaphone I gather available and I saw this was a really ridiculous price but worked for many people with hearing difficulties, but I can't for the life of me remember quite where I saw it. It may have been an accessory, or even an app from the store; I'm sorry to be a bit vague about this but know I saw something along those lines.

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Carol P
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From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experience with the Touch at
the Apple store

Hi Jackie -

Do you still have an N82 around anywhere? If so, and it's
not too cheeky, I'd really be keen to hear if the same
track played on both it and the touch really did pack out
more umph on the Touch? When I was in the Apple store,
you know how it is, I was trying to have hands on, but
the assistant, who was pretty good really, also kept
fiddling, and it might just be that between us, we were
preventing us hearing the full power of a music track
because voice over was also kicking in and out as he was
fiddling with it, and that action may well have just
affected the VO volume without achieving the max volume
for music.
Thanks for the offer of your article on a docking
station, I'd love to read it, I always appreciate what
you have to say, and your experiences.
Thanks -

Andy
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From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 5:33 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experience with the Touch at
the Apple store

Hi Andy

Obviously I can't comment on your hearing experience
with the iPod Touch. But I would say that it leaves the
N82, N86 and anything else I've heard on
a mobile for dead.  Again though I'm coming from a
hearing perspective I do
appreciate that.

I never wanted an iPhone, so when I got an iPod Touch, I
thought: "Oh my God, how am I going to use this thing". Now, I just love it, and am so enthusiastic about blind
people using it that I would urge anyone thinking about
it to seriously consider making the move.  I've
downloaded quite a lot of apps for mine now, most of which are accessible. I
think it's an exciting world out there that, till now,
we've been unable to tap into.
I can tell you that the docking-station I bought for my
Nano last year also
fits my iPod, and it really does have some clout! I
wrote about it in Access
IT last autumn, but if you are interested, I could send
you it off list as you can adjust bass and treble, and
VoiceOver is awesome through it as well
as music.

Glad you had some hands-on, and hope you decide to go
for it if you can.
Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
ANDY COLLINS
Sent: 14 February 2011 16:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] My experience with the Touch at the
Apple store
Hi Debbie and all -

Spent some time in my Apple store in Exeter today.

My experience with the IPod Touch was varied, bear in
mind that sometimes I
use hearing aids, and sometimes not, and that my hearing
loss is in the higher frequencies.

I found the female voice on the touch to be rather thin
and tinny in sound,
not sure if the tone can be changed, and in quite a
noisy environment such as the store, it was quite
difficult to hear using my hearing aids. When I tried
headphones [I had taken along a pair of in-ear
Sennheisers, and another pair of over the ear noise
cancelling headphones] I found the voice was clear enough [no hearing aid for this test] but was
disappointed by the
level of music volume for both pairs of headphones, it
was ok, but given that my hearing loss is in the high
end, I need additional volume to fully appreciate those
frequencies, and I like music loud anyway, to get fully
absorbed in it.
I noticed that the voice over voice did appear to be
capable of greater volume than was available for music,
and have wondered since getting home, if this could have
been because I tried to increase the music volume while
voice over was still talking, and thus increased the
latter and not the former. This makes my finding
inconclusive. What I would say is, that I think if the
Touch was put through another system, say a docking
system, or  home stereo, or even headphones with individual volume
control, then there will be enough umph, but maybe by
themselves, just with standard headphones,
they may well pack less of a punch, but like I said, the
voice over was definitely loud and clear enough for me
through headphones. I didn't try the
ones that come with the Touch, as I find included
headphones are usually inferior things anyway, so wanted
my own pretty good quality ones.
For those familiar with the N82 mobile, I'd say that
voice over and music on
the Touch, is similar in power to TALKS and music on the
N82.
For those that haven't had hands on, the Touch is very
thin and flat, but bigger than I expected, being larger
than the average mobile phones. While there, I took a
quick look at the Iphone too, and have to say I didn't
really like the feel of it in the hand, this is larger
still than the Touch, and heavier too than many modern mobiles. I didn't feel
it felt very natural
holding it to the era because of it's broadness in
width. In terms of build,
it felt like a backwards step to me, basically a
rectangular frame around a
piece of glass, that felt a bit too long, and a bit too
wide in the hand when used as a phone, probably fine for
texting etc.
All just my opinion and experience today, and not meant
to encourage or dissuade. Hope it helps in some way -

Andy



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