Hi Jackie - Thanks very much for doing that test for me, I really appreciate it.I think I'm going to pass on the iPhone and go for the Touch, plus the IK500. Thanks for your input, as always, very informative and helpful -
Andy----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 8:12 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experience with the Touch at the Apple store
Hi Andy Like-for-like, the iPod Touch wins in my honest opinion. But because ofyour hearing difficulties, and the differences you and I pick up in high andlow end sounds, you might well think the N82 is better. I don't use myphones for music any more because of having a Nano and now the iPod Touch, Ijust don't see the necessity to drain the phone's battery when I have a dedicated player which is lightweight and just as portable.I can't help you though regarding whether or not you go for the iPhone overthe iPod Touch. Most people here seem to think the iPhone is worth buyinginstead. But I want to get as much use out of my Nokia handsets with Talks and K-Reader, so the Touch was always a better option for me, and I find it pretty addictive! (smile). I will send you the docking-station article off list. If you put an iPhone or iPod Touch through that, you'll be cranking!!Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfANDY COLLINS Sent: 14 February 2011 18:40 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experience with the Touch at the Apple store Hi Jackie - Do you still have an N82 around anywhere? If so, and it's not too cheeky,I'd really be keen to hear if the same track played on both it and the touchreally did pack out more umph on the Touch? When I was in the Apple store, you know how it is, I was trying to have hands on, but the assistant, who was pretty good really, also kept fiddling, and it might just be that between us, we were preventing us hearing the full power of a music track because voice over was also kicking in and out as he was fiddling with it,and that action may well have just affected the VO volume without achievingthe max volume for music.Thanks for the offer of your article on a docking station, I'd love to readit, I always appreciate what you have to say, and your experiences. Thanks - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experience with the Touch at the Apple storeHi Andy Obviously I can't comment on your hearing experience with the iPod Touch. But I would say that it leaves the N82, N86 and anything else I've heard on a mobile for dead. Again though I'm coming from a hearing perspective I do appreciate that. I never wanted an iPhone, so when I got an iPod Touch, I thought: "Oh my God, how am I going to use this thing". Now, I just love it, and am soenthusiastic about blind people using it that I would urge anyone thinkingabout it to seriously consider making the move. I've downloaded quite a lot of apps for mine now, most of which are accessible. I think it's an exciting world out there that, till now, we've been unable to tap into. I can tell you that the docking-station I bought for my Nano last year also fits my iPod, and it really does have some clout! I wrote about it in AccessIT last autumn, but if you are interested, I could send you it off list asyou can adjust bass and treble, and VoiceOver is awesome through it as well as music. Glad you had some hands-on, and hope you decide to go for it if you can. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: 14 February 2011 16:20 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] My experience with the Touch at the Apple store Hi Debbie and all - Spent some time in my Apple store in Exeter today. My experience with the IPod Touch was varied, bear in mind that sometimes I use hearing aids, and sometimes not, and that my hearing loss is in the higher frequencies. I found the female voice on the touch to be rather thin and tinny in sound,not sure if the tone can be changed, and in quite a noisy environment such as the store, it was quite difficult to hear using my hearing aids. When Itried headphones [I had taken along a pair of in-ear Sennheisers, and another pair of over the ear noise cancelling headphones] I found the voice was clear enough [no hearing aid for this test] but was disappointed by the level of music volume for both pairs of headphones, it was ok, but giventhat my hearing loss is in the high end, I need additional volume to fullyappreciate those frequencies, and I like music loud anyway, to get fully absorbed in it. I noticed that the voice over voice did appear to be capable of greatervolume than was available for music, and have wondered since getting home, if this could have been because I tried to increase the music volume whilevoice over was still talking, and thus increased the latter and not the former. This makes my finding inconclusive. What I would say is, that I think if the Touch was put through another system, say a docking system, orhome stereo, or even headphones with individual volume control, then therewill be enough umph, but maybe by themselves, just with standard headphones, they may well pack less of a punch, but like I said, the voice over was definitely loud and clear enough for me through headphones. I didn't try the ones that come with the Touch, as I find included headphones are usually inferior things anyway, so wanted my own pretty good quality ones. For those familiar with the N82 mobile, I'd say that voice over and music on the Touch, is similar in power to TALKS and music on the N82. For those that haven't had hands on, the Touch is very thin and flat, butbigger than I expected, being larger than the average mobile phones. Whilethere, I took a quick look at the Iphone too, and have to say I didn't really like the feel of it in the hand, this is larger still than the Touch, and heavier too than many modern mobiles. I didn't feel it felt very natural holding it to the era because of it's broadness in width. In terms of build, it felt like a backwards step to me, basically a rectangular frame around a piece of glass, that felt a bit too long, and a bit too wide in the hand when used as a phone, probably fine for texting etc. All just my opinion and experience today, and not meant to encourage or dissuade. Hope it helps in some way - Andy No virus found in this incoming message. 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