Hi Andy, Thank you for your info about the ipod touch and I can fully understand the sort of problem you had with the ipod, having a hearing loss. I am just wondering if the talked to you about the settings for deaf people, you can ajust the out put if you have a hearing loss in one ear, so that all the sound comes out of one speaker, or you can ballance the sound to how your hearing is. David Weston. ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDY COLLINS To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 4:20 PM Subject: [access-uk] My experience with the Touch at the Apple store Hi Debbie and all - Spent some time in my Apple store in Exeter today. My experience with the IPod Touch was varied, bear in mind that sometimes I use hearing aids, and sometimes not, and that my hearing loss is in the higher frequencies. I found the female voice on the touch to be rather thin and tinny in sound, not sure if the tone can be changed, and in quite a noisy environment such as the store, it was quite difficult to hear using my hearing aids. When I tried headphones [I had taken along a pair of in-ear Sennheisers, and another pair of over the ear noise cancelling headphones] I found the voice was clear enough [no hearing aid for this test] but was disappointed by the level of music volume for both pairs of headphones, it was ok, but given that my hearing loss is in the high end, I need additional volume to fully appreciate those frequencies, and I like music loud anyway, to get fully absorbed in it. I noticed that the voice over voice did appear to be capable of greater volume than was available for music, and have wondered since getting home, if this could have been because I tried to increase the music volume while voice over was still talking, and thus increased the latter and not the former. This makes my finding inconclusive. What I would say is, that I think if the Touch was put through another system, say a docking system, or home stereo, or even headphones with individual volume control, then there will be enough umph, but maybe by themselves, just with standard headphones, they may well pack less of a punch, but like I said, the voice over was definitely loud and clear enough for me through headphones. I didn't try the ones that come with the Touch, as I find included headphones are usually inferior things anyway, so wanted my own pretty good quality ones. For those familiar with the N82 mobile, I'd say that voice over and music on the Touch, is similar in power to TALKS and music on the N82. For those that haven't had hands on, the Touch is very thin and flat, but bigger than I expected, being larger than the average mobile phones. While there, I took a quick look at the Iphone too, and have to say I didn't really like the feel of it in the hand, this is larger still than the Touch, and heavier too than many modern mobiles. I didn't feel it felt very natural holding it to the era because of it's broadness in width. In terms of build, it felt like a backwards step to me, basically a rectangular frame around a piece of glass, that felt a bit too long, and a bit too wide in the hand when used as a phone, probably fine for texting etc. All just my opinion and experience today, and not meant to encourage or dissuade. Hope it helps in some way - Andy