No, I don't imagine large companies, or those more technically savvy, will install Vista in a hurry. The outfits I do worry about are those fresh projects with a pot of money from regeneration funds or National Lottery or whatever who will doubtlessly assume they must rush out and buy the latest and 'best', and may not stop to be cautioned or listen to those who might have to point to the access issues that may plague Vista for the first six months or more. I imagine the pressure for buyers of new computers will be heavy to go for Vista, not least by Microsoft itself encouraging such buyers not to hold back on going Vista. Who knows too how long XP will be around as an option for buyers of new computers. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Léonie Watson Ian, It's a fair point. I work for a technology company and we won't be rolling out IE7 across our network for several months yet. An operating system will take much much more caution when it comes along, not to = mention expense. Regards, L=E9onie.=20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf = Of Iain Lackie Sent: 20 November 2006 21:05 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 If our company is anything to go by I think it will be a long time = before many companies migrate to Vista. I have only (and I am by no means = alone) have only been migrated to XP in June 2005. Before that, many of us were using NT. iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I'd only say here guys, well, in response to Paddy's earlier comment = about=20 Vista, don't hold your breath there. From what GW Micro have been saying I get the impression that, as ready = or=20 nearly ready as Vista may be for consumer release, the access side of it is still very = much=20 a work in progress. GW are committed to releasing a service pack or upgrade as = part=20 of the upgrade price, whether you are paying directly for the V6 upgrade, or getting it = as=20 part of your SMAA. Office 2007 though shouldn't be a problem if the demos GW have been = airing=20 are anything to go by. I just pity those who may be forced down the Vista route early on = because of it being installed in work settings. I'm inclined to think Vista, is best left = alone for a while until things become clearer as to the quality of accessability to it for = us. Even now it is being said a Vista Service pack one will be along by the autumn of 2007. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: 20 November 2006 4:30PMs V 8.0 Windoweye's is definitly a different animal and I get frustrated when i don't know how to perform various reading tasks and I just need to get = the job done. However, i feel Windoweye's is the wisest route to go. I will spare you all a rant on Jaws. My comments speak for themselves = on my previous message. Dj paddy =D4=E0=06 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 Hi, I like most people am staying away from Jaws 8 and am migrating to WindowEyes as much as possible. I am still falling back to the jaws keystrokes quite a bit, but am getting there. Why they released version 8 days after releasing the 7.10 update was a mystery - they had precious time to do more tests on it, plus make = version 8 a Vista compatible upgrade! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dj Paddy Sent: Mon 20/11/2006 16:20 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 This is shocking. I've just been reading the latest disaster and can not believe somebody = is honestly going to pay for this. This thing isn't even supporting Vista for goodness sake! And what is all that SAPI Alia's stuff about in say all? OMG, that's a new feature? More and more nonsense! I'm raging because, I like many wasted my money on this rubbish for = years! I'm disgusted because, many still will! Also rehab agency's and that = whole area will thrust this product on unsuspecting souls. Note: this is a consumers viewpoint and I think it's utter pooh. Barry =D4=E0=06 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 Andrew, for details of JAWS 8 go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp#OS From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of andrew shipp Hi All, What are the benefits of upgrading to Jaws V 8.0? 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