[access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
- From: "Vanja Sudar" <vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:28:31 -0000
Hi Barry,
although I'm not a computer science student, I am, as you probably know,
very computer literate, therefore I have been playing with WE my self, if
nothing else because I like to try out all sort of different products. I do
have a demo installed on this system and use it on occasion. I also agree
with you where you said in one of your previous messages where you said
that in many ways WE makes computer usage more as a sighted person and also
agree about stability although jaws 8 so far hasn't crashed once on this
system and it's been on without reboot since last Friday, um well early
Saturday morning, let's see how long it lasts. So, although I can see
advantages of WE and some of them I experienced my self, for me personally
there's no need to change, or at least not at the moment.
Vanja
http://www.sudar.co.uk
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Skype: vanja121
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:44 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
Hi Vanya.
I do agree with if it's not broek then why fix it.
I'm a Computer Science student and Window Eye's has been forced upon me if I
want to keep up with current and emerging technology's.
Windows 2003 for example.
I also find Window Eye's alot more stable. EG. It doesnt' bomb it's speech
out if another app crashes and a bug report is brought up.
Ðà
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vanja Sudar" <vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
I baisically agree with you, although considering the vista is coming they
really should do something about it. I do agree though that there isn't many
new features that make me excited about this new jaws, at the same time jaws
has done great job for me since I used it back in 97. I admit that lately in
new versions of jaws there are not that many new significant features,
having said that jaws does what I need it to do. As much as certain things
about it annoy me, they're not enough for me to want to switch to another
screenreader. If jaws stopped doing something I rely on on daily bases and
if it made certain takss difficult or impossible, then I'd do it, but as
things stand now I just don't see a point of learning another screenreader
and more to the point paying for it, yes I do know that WE has a payment
scheme, but again, to me, there's no point of switching, not because i'm
afraid of the change or because it'd be difficult to learn it, but simply
because I don't have a reason.
As for jaws 8 I don't have probelms with it at all, only 2 things that annoy
me, well actually 3:
1. Why the hell did they change the key combination for instant messeging
alerts...ctrl+scrole lock+f 12, kinda dumb key combo if you ask me and I
simply don't know or see a reason or need to change it. The old one doesn't
coinside with anything, as far as I know.
2. When in say all jaws doesn't automaticly read windows live messenger
alerts like it used to do. I understand that some people might not like
their reading to be interupted by telling them every 2 minutes who signed
in, but there is an option to disable the announcements, so if that's the
case and if that's a feature I think it's unneceserry.
3. The paypal problem I reported last week with 7.1 still exists with 8.
Interestingly enough and I forgot to mention this last week, all the other
combo boxes on that page work fine. The only one that doesn't work is the
box which contains list of people you previously made a payment to, however
the other boxes where you need to choos a currency and I think there is
another one, can't remember what it is, that works absolutely fine.
Vanja
http://www.sudar.co.uk
MSN messenger: sudar23@xxxxxxxxxxx
AIM: vanja121
Skype: vanja121
----- Original Message -----
From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
Fs haven't committed to making this upgrade vista-compatible, but then at
the moment we don't know when vista will be released yet, so that seems
reasonable enough to me. I wonder what level of access to Vista WE users
will get for what they have already paid? JAWS has done a great job for me
for the last nine years, I agree that WE is catching up, and is probably
ahead in terms of its user interface being far simpler etc, but I see no
reason for calling the latest version of JAWS a "disaster".
ali, what specific problems are you having with JAWS 8?
James
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
> Windoweye's is definitly a different animal and I get frustrated when i
> don't know how to perform various reading tasks and I just need to get the
> job done.
>
> However, i feel Windoweye's is the wisest route to go.
>
> I will spare you all a rant on Jaws. My comments speak for themselves on
> my
> previous message.
>
> Dj paddy
> Ôà
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:23 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> Hi,
> I like most people am staying away from Jaws 8 and am migrating to
> WindowEyes as much as possible. I am still falling back to the jaws
> keystrokes quite a bit, but am getting there.
>
> Why they released version 8 days after releasing the 7.10 update was a
> mystery - they had precious time to do more tests on it, plus make version
> 8
> a Vista compatible upgrade!
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dj Paddy
> Sent: Mon 20/11/2006 16:20
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
> This is shocking.
>
> I've just been reading the latest disaster and can not believe somebody is
> honestly going to pay for this.
>
> This thing isn't even supporting Vista for goodness sake!
>
> And what is all that SAPI Alia's stuff about in say all?
>
> OMG, that's a new feature?
>
> More and more nonsense!
>
> I'm raging because, I like many wasted my money on this rubbish for years!
>
> I'm disgusted because, many still will! Also rehab agency's and that
> whole
> area will thrust this product on unsuspecting souls.
>
> Note: this is a consumers viewpoint and I think it's utter pooh.
> Barry
> Ôà
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:39 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> Andrew, for details of JAWS 8 go to:
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp#OS
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> Of andrew shipp
>
> Hi All, What are the benefits of upgrading to Jaws V 8.0?
> Regards
>
> Andrew Shipp
>
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