[access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council (From News Shopper)

Hi Clive,

That's a fair point.  OK, if you all feel it's a useful discussion to have
on here I'll let it go-ahead.

Barry
List Admin

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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:47 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
> 
> The implication is that if others tackle spending the way Bromley do,
> we
> could all find it harder to get access to equipment that we regularly
> discuss on here.
> 
> Best,
> Clive
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Clive Lever
> Diversity Advisor
> 01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, County
> Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ.
> Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference for
> the
> benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Ankers, Dave (UK)
> Sent: 11 January 2011 12:00
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
> 
> Clive,
> 
> Is this really the forum for a political debate?
> 
> As much as I like politics, and as someone who is being directly
> affected by current decision making, this isn't the place to discuss
> it.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was at a conference on digital inclusion in December for B C A B. The
> Cabinet office were bigging up the Big Society. The charities were
> dubbing it: "Big society, little money!"  For those of you who know the
> term, the approach of sloping the responsibility off onto the charities
> could put progress on adopting the principles of the social model of
> disability back   a decade or two. This is the model where we get away
> from the idea of disabled people as passive recipients of care and
> charity, and move towards empowerment of disabled people to control
> their own lives and to be viewed as independent citizens.
> 
> Best,
> Clive
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Clive Lever
> Diversity Advisor
> 01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, County
> Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ.
> Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference for
> the
> benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of John G
> Sent: 11 January 2011 10:37
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
> 
> the idea being that government funding is replaced by donations from
> fellow citizens, probably the same people who can't afford to pay off
> their utility bills.
> big society, big con more like.
> At 10:21 11/01/2011, you wrote:
> >What's this got to do with the "Big Society"?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Dave Ankers
> >
> >Here we go then, the big society - my arse!
> >
> >
> >  Site Logo<http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/1000734/>
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> >
> >Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> >
> >
> >1:18pm Monday 10th January 2011
> >
> >By David Mills
> >
> >A CHARITY which represents the blind and visually impaired has hit out
> >at Bromley Council <http://www.bromley.gov.uk/Default.bromley>  for
> >temporarily suspending equipment provision.
> >
> >Services which include the talking books, as well as equipment such as
> >walking canes and liquid level indicators, are all under review by the
> >council.
> >
> >Kent Association for the Blind (KAB), which has a sight centre in
> Blyth
> 
> >Road, Bromley, will be pressuring the council to continue providing
> >funding.
> >
> >Dick Groves, aged 65, of South View, Bromley, said: "Visual impairment
> >is the most feared of all sensory impairments. Provision in Bromley is
> >extremely patchy."
> >
> >Mr Groves, who is blind, said: "This is a classic example of the way
> in
> 
> >which action has been taken without consultation and without
> information
> >being given to one of the weakest sections of society and least able
> to
> 
> >respond."
> >
> >  Kent Association for the Blind's Bromley
> >branch<http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/1536532/>
> >
> >A KAB spokesman said: "We are currently in contact with our service
> >users to explain the service has been temporarily suspended by the
> >London borough of Bromley.
> >
> >"We are sharing other providers of these services such as the Calibre
> >audio library, a completely free service, to ensure users are not
> going
> 
> >to go without talking books.
> >
> >"We at KAB are going to be making representations to the council to
> >press the case that it would be more cost effective to continue to
> fund
> 
> >provision because we believe withdrawing that service represents a
> real
> 
> >risk to people's safety and their ability to get out and about.
> >
> >"The costs that could be generated by injury would far outweigh the
> cost
> >to the council of providing equipment."
> >
> >A council spokesman said: "We have a strong commitment to providing
> >talking books in our libraries with no plans to cut the service and we
> >will continue to make special concessions to waive charges to people
> >with a registered visual impairment.
> >
> >"We have however moved from cassettes to CDs and downloadable material
> >over the years but we still keep a large collection of older cassettes
> >in our Home Library Service, which supports customers who are
> physically
> >unable to get into a branch.
> >
> >"There are also free national talking book service and as well as our
> >library service we will be assisting people to access the talking
> books
> 
> >from the national Calibre service together with the equipment provided
> >by the British Wireless for the Blind Fund.
> >
> >"To make sure we make the best use of our resource we wanted to avoid
> >duplication and whilst we no longer fund the KAB talking books
> service,
> 
> >KAB is pointing people to our library and to these free services.
> >
> >"In terms of equipment supplied by the KAB on our behalf such as
> >portable lamps, talking clocks and mobility aids, again we want to
> make
> 
> >sure we use resources as efficiently as possible and have suspended
> this
> >KAB while we carry out a review.
> >
> >"However we do continue to fund KAB to provide assessment and
> >rehabilitation services for people with visual impairments."
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