Hi John, I am not dismissing it out of hand. Meerly saying that it is not access-tech specific. There are not only more suitable but better quipt forums than this to discuss VI Politics and Lifestyle issues. Regards, Barry List Admin. > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of John G > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:10 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council > (From News Shopper) > > With all due respect, it raises awareness and as such it is important > to hear what others have to say on the matter. To dismiss as offtopic > is a little insensitive to those who are worried about the forhcoming > changes. > Regards > John > > At 12:55 11/01/2011, you wrote: > >True, > > > >This was fine for an informational piece but it's more suited to the > likes > >of vigen. > > > >Please close this thread as soon as poss. > > > >Regards, > >Barry > >List Admin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > > Behalf Of Ankers, Dave (UK) > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:00 PM > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley > council > > > (From News Shopper) > > > > > > Clive, > > > > > > Is this really the forum for a political debate? > > > > > > As much as I like politics, and as someone who is being directly > > > affected by current decision making, this isn't the place to > discuss > > > it. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I was at a conference on digital inclusion in December for B C A B. > The > > > Cabinet office were bigging up the Big Society. The charities were > > > dubbing it: "Big society, little money!" For those of you who know > the > > > term, the approach of sloping the responsibility off onto the > charities > > > could put progress on adopting the principles of the social model > of > > > disability back a decade or two. This is the model where we get > away > > > from the idea of disabled people as passive recipients of care and > > > charity, and move towards empowerment of disabled people to control > > > their own lives and to be viewed as independent citizens. > > > > > > Best, > > > Clive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clive Lever > > > Diversity Advisor > > > 01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, > County > > > Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ. > > > Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference > for > > > the > > > benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > > Behalf > > > Of John G > > > Sent: 11 January 2011 10:37 > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley > council > > > (From News Shopper) > > > > > > the idea being that government funding is replaced by donations > from > > > fellow citizens, probably the same people who can't afford to pay > off > > > their utility bills. > > > big society, big con more like. > > > At 10:21 11/01/2011, you wrote: > > > >What's this got to do with the "Big Society"? > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > > >Dave Ankers > > > > > > > >Here we go then, the big society - my arse! > > > > > > > > > > > > Site > Logo<http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/1000734/> > > > > > > > > > > > >Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council > > > > > > > > > > > >1:18pm Monday 10th January 2011 > > > > > > > >By David Mills > > > > > > > >A CHARITY which represents the blind and visually impaired has hit > out > > > >at Bromley Council <http://www.bromley.gov.uk/Default.bromley> > for > > > >temporarily suspending equipment provision. > > > > > > > >Services which include the talking books, as well as equipment > such as > > > >walking canes and liquid level indicators, are all under review by > the > > > >council. > > > > > > > >Kent Association for the Blind (KAB), which has a sight centre in > > > Blyth > > > > > > >Road, Bromley, will be pressuring the council to continue > providing > > > >funding. > > > > > > > >Dick Groves, aged 65, of South View, Bromley, said: "Visual > impairment > > > >is the most feared of all sensory impairments. Provision in > Bromley is > > > >extremely patchy." > > > > > > > >Mr Groves, who is blind, said: "This is a classic example of the > way > > > in > > > > > > >which action has been taken without consultation and without > > > information > > > >being given to one of the weakest sections of society and least > able > > > to > > > > > > >respond." > > > > > > > > Kent Association for the Blind's Bromley > > > >branch<http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/1536532/> > > > > > > > >A KAB spokesman said: "We are currently in contact with our > service > > > >users to explain the service has been temporarily suspended by the > > > >London borough of Bromley. > > > > > > > >"We are sharing other providers of these services such as the > Calibre > > > >audio library, a completely free service, to ensure users are not > > > going > > > > > > >to go without talking books. > > > > > > > >"We at KAB are going to be making representations to the council > to > > > >press the case that it would be more cost effective to continue to > > > fund > > > > > > >provision because we believe withdrawing that service represents a > > > real > > > > > > >risk to people's safety and their ability to get out and about. > > > > > > > >"The costs that could be generated by injury would far outweigh > the > > > cost > > > >to the council of providing equipment." > > > > > > > >A council spokesman said: "We have a strong commitment to > providing > > > >talking books in our libraries with no plans to cut the service > and we > > > >will continue to make special concessions to waive charges to > people > > > >with a registered visual impairment. > > > > > > > >"We have however moved from cassettes to CDs and downloadable > material > > > >over the years but we still keep a large collection of older > cassettes > > > >in our Home Library Service, which supports customers who are > > > physically > > > >unable to get into a branch. > > > > > > > >"There are also free national talking book service and as well as > our > > > >library service we will be assisting people to access the talking > > > books > > > > > > >from the national Calibre service together with the equipment > provided > > > >by the British Wireless for the Blind Fund. > > > > > > > >"To make sure we make the best use of our resource we wanted to > avoid > > > >duplication and whilst we no longer fund the KAB talking books > > > service, > > > > > > >KAB is pointing people to our library and to these free services. > > > > > > > >"In terms of equipment supplied by the KAB on our behalf such as > > > >portable lamps, talking clocks and mobility aids, again we want to > > > make > > > > > > >sure we use resources as efficiently as possible and have > suspended > > > this > > > >KAB while we carry out a review. > > > > > > > >"However we do continue to fund KAB to provide assessment and > > > >rehabilitation services for people with visual impairments." > > > > > > > >Back <javascript:history.go(-1);> > > > > > > > >(c) Copyright 2001-2011 Newsquest Media Group > > > > > > > >http://www.newsshopper.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >******************************************************************** > > > >This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended > > > >recipient and may also be privileged. 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