[access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council (From News Shopper)

Hallo Barry
I think Clive's response sums up my sentiments very nicely.
More publicity entails more awareness which can only be a good thing.
All the best
John
At 13:44 11/01/2011, you wrote:
Hi John,

I am not dismissing it out of hand.  Meerly saying that it is not
access-tech specific.  There are not only more suitable but better quipt
forums than this to discuss VI Politics and Lifestyle issues.

Regards,
Barry
List Admin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of John G
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:10 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
>
> With all due respect, it raises awareness and as such it is important
> to hear what others have to say on the matter. To dismiss as offtopic
> is a little insensitive to those who are worried about the forhcoming
> changes.
> Regards
> John
>
> At 12:55 11/01/2011, you wrote:
> >True,
> >
> >This was fine for an informational piece but it's more suited to the
> likes
> >of vigen.
> >
> >Please close this thread as soon as poss.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Barry
> >List Admin
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Ankers, Dave (UK)
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:00 PM
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley
> council
> > > (From News Shopper)
> > >
> > > Clive,
> > >
> > > Is this really the forum for a political debate?
> > >
> > > As much as I like politics, and as someone who is being directly
> > > affected by current decision making, this isn't the place to
> discuss
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was at a conference on digital inclusion in December for B C A B.
> The
> > > Cabinet office were bigging up the Big Society. The charities were
> > > dubbing it: "Big society, little money!"  For those of you who know
> the
> > > term, the approach of sloping the responsibility off onto the
> charities
> > > could put progress on adopting the principles of the social model
> of
> > > disability back   a decade or two. This is the model where we get
> away
> > > from the idea of disabled people as passive recipients of care and
> > > charity, and move towards empowerment of disabled people to control
> > > their own lives and to be viewed as independent citizens.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Clive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clive Lever
> > > Diversity Advisor
> > > 01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House,
> County
> > > Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ.
> > > Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference
> for
> > > the
> > > benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of John G
> > > Sent: 11 January 2011 10:37
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley
> council
> > > (From News Shopper)
> > >
> > > the idea being that government funding is replaced by donations
> from
> > > fellow citizens, probably the same people who can't afford to pay
> off
> > > their utility bills.
> > > big society, big con more like.
> > > At 10:21 11/01/2011, you wrote:
> > > >What's this got to do with the "Big Society"?
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >
> > > >Dave Ankers
> > > >
> > > >Here we go then, the big society - my arse!
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >1:18pm Monday 10th January 2011
> > > >
> > > >By David Mills
> > > >
> > > >A CHARITY which represents the blind and visually impaired has hit
> out
> > > >at Bromley Council <http://www.bromley.gov.uk/Default.bromley>
> for
> > > >temporarily suspending equipment provision.
> > > >
> > > >Services which include the talking books, as well as equipment
> such as
> > > >walking canes and liquid level indicators, are all under review by
> the
> > > >council.
> > > >
> > > >Kent Association for the Blind (KAB), which has a sight centre in
> > > Blyth
> > >
> > > >Road, Bromley, will be pressuring the council to continue
> providing
> > > >funding.
> > > >
> > > >Dick Groves, aged 65, of South View, Bromley, said: "Visual
> impairment
> > > >is the most feared of all sensory impairments. Provision in
> Bromley is
> > > >extremely patchy."
> > > >
> > > >Mr Groves, who is blind, said: "This is a classic example of the
> way
> > > in
> > >
> > > >which action has been taken without consultation and without
> > > information
> > > >being given to one of the weakest sections of society and least
> able
> > > to
> > >
> > > >respond."
> > > >
> > > >  Kent Association for the Blind's Bromley
> > > >branch<http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/1536532/>
> > > >
> > > >A KAB spokesman said: "We are currently in contact with our
> service
> > > >users to explain the service has been temporarily suspended by the
> > > >London borough of Bromley.
> > > >
> > > >"We are sharing other providers of these services such as the
> Calibre
> > > >audio library, a completely free service, to ensure users are not
> > > going
> > >
> > > >to go without talking books.
> > > >
> > > >"We at KAB are going to be making representations to the council
> to
> > > >press the case that it would be more cost effective to continue to
> > > fund
> > >
> > > >provision because we believe withdrawing that service represents a
> > > real
> > >
> > > >risk to people's safety and their ability to get out and about.
> > > >
> > > >"The costs that could be generated by injury would far outweigh
> the
> > > cost
> > > >to the council of providing equipment."
> > > >
> > > >A council spokesman said: "We have a strong commitment to
> providing
> > > >talking books in our libraries with no plans to cut the service
> and we
> > > >will continue to make special concessions to waive charges to
> people
> > > >with a registered visual impairment.
> > > >
> > > >"We have however moved from cassettes to CDs and downloadable
> material
> > > >over the years but we still keep a large collection of older
> cassettes
> > > >in our Home Library Service, which supports customers who are
> > > physically
> > > >unable to get into a branch.
> > > >
> > > >"There are also free national talking book service and as well as
> our
> > > >library service we will be assisting people to access the talking
> > > books
> > >
> > > >from the national Calibre service together with the equipment
> provided
> > > >by the British Wireless for the Blind Fund.
> > > >
> > > >"To make sure we make the best use of our resource we wanted to
> avoid
> > > >duplication and whilst we no longer fund the KAB talking books
> > > service,
> > >
> > > >KAB is pointing people to our library and to these free services.
> > > >
> > > >"In terms of equipment supplied by the KAB on our behalf such as
> > > >portable lamps, talking clocks and mobility aids, again we want to
> > > make
> > >
> > > >sure we use resources as efficiently as possible and have
> suspended
> > > this
> > > >KAB while we carry out a review.
> > > >
> > > >"However we do continue to fund KAB to provide assessment and
> > > >rehabilitation services for people with visual impairments."
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