[access-uk] Re: BROADBAND ENQUIRY

  • From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:57:58 +0100

Hi,

We have just got another phone line with a company called Vonage
<www.vonage.co.uk>.  Although not really economical for a single person,
if you had multiple phone lines before (i.e you were on ISDN), and going
to broadband means you loose these, and want calls included, then for a
tenner a month they will give you:

* A geographical UK number
* Calls to any geographical destination (don't use it for
mobiles/0845/0870 etc as these are chargible)
* All the features you have to pay for with BT - i.e, voice mail with
recordable greeting, caller ID, caller display, ringback, and a load of
forwarding options.

They give you a box you plug into an Ethernet source, and on the back
there is an analog phone port you can plug a phone into.  This means now
my sister can make cheap calls (we don't let her phone anything other
than 01/02 numbers), and it doesn't tie up the main phone line (which is
quite important for some work Dad does).

If we were with cable we could get rid of BT altogether.

There are cheaper versions also which I am looking into.

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ray's Home
Sent: 26 September 2005 16:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BROADBAND ENQUIRY

Yes well, tristram, that's the way I tend to see it now!  The phone line
is increasingly simply a conduit for the broadband connection, with
phone calls an added extra for me.  Sometimes I think I would like to
rationalise on using my mobile for phone calls and cut out the landline
phone altogether, but cost of calls wise, that isn't economic at the
moment.  I say roll on a flat rate connection with a lot of call time
included which is meant for data comms as much, if not more than
telephony.
Ray

Personal emails:  Email me at
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BROADBAND ENQUIRY


| Ray wrote:
| 
| "That said, when we are all adicted to watching TV any time we like up
to a 
| week or  so after transmission, I wonder if 2Mbs will still be
enough?"
| 
| It won't, 8mb is pushing the limits of ADSL down analogue copper wire
(at 
| street level).  For that kind of stuff you are probably going to be
looking 
| at 15mb for starters, that's probably going to need optical fiber up
to your 
| house/flat.  That's not very, very far away but a few years yet.  I
have 
| read a fair amount of guff on this in recent past.  Telcoms are likely
to 
| mvoe to a situation of providing all of us data packages with
conventional 
| telephone voice services thrown in as afterthough.  In other words the

| priorities will be the other way around with data being most valuable 
| traffic to them rather than voice calls as it is in the domestic
market 
| today.
| 
| Regards.
| 
| Tristram Llewellyn
| Sight and Sound Technology
| Technical Support
| www.sightandsound.co.uk
| 
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:25 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: BROADBAND ENQUIRY
| 
| 
| I tend to think that Tristram is right in saying 2Mbs is plenty for
the vast 
| majority of us.  That said, when we are all adicted to watching TV any
time 
| we like up to a week or  so after transmission, I wonder if 2Mbs will
still 
| be enough?
| 
| Anyway, I had a leaflet through the door about Bulldog Communications
and 
| they appear to be very agressively cmpetitive.  Take a look at:
| 
| http://www.broadbandchoices.co.uk/provider.asp?ProviderID=4&kt=105
| 
| Just for starters.  Wonder if anyone uses them or has investigated
further.
| Ray
| 
| Personal emails:  Email me at
| mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
| 
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Tristram Llewellyn"
| 
|| Plusnet major on consistency and reliability I think more than raw
speed.
|| You'll have to bear in mind 2mb rollout has only recently got started
and
|| not everywhere has that at the moment and sometimes not even
broadband. 
| The
|| availability of 4 and 8mb will be limited somewhat by geographical 
| proximity
|| or lack of it to an exchange.  Therefore a number of providers have
sat on
|| the sidelines to see how the customer experiences go with those
provders
|| that do, for example Bulldog do this in the South, but some customers
have
|| had major gaps in service.  Take a look at somewhere like
|| www.theregister.co.uk for more info.
||
|| Personally for most of what you come accross today 2mb is fast enough
for
|| any one person.
||
|| Regards.
||
|| Tristram Llewellyn
|| Sight and Sound Technology
|| Technical Support
|| www.sightandsound.co.uk
||
|| ----- Original Message ----- 
|| From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
|| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:03 PM
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: BROADBAND ENQUIRY
||
||
|| BROADBAND ENQUIRYVirgin.net is good as well. I've been with them for 
| around
|| two years and haven't had any problems and there help line is good
too.
|| Though I might migrate to PlussNet when they start offering 4/8MB
speed
|| broadband if Virgin doesn't offer a matching service.
||
|| Cheers,
||
|| AmroB
||  ----- Original Message ----- 
||  From: Ian Macrae
||  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
||  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:33 AM
||  Subject: [access-uk] BROADBAND ENQUIRY
||
||
||  Hi all,
||
||  Having put up with their terrible customer service and lack of 
| proactivity
|| for too long we're at last in the process of ditching NTL at home.
|| Consequently we're looking at alternative broadband providers and I 
| wondered
|| whether there were any which people would highly recommend from a VI
point
|| of view?  Alternatively, are there any which should be avoided at all

| costs?
|| I remember, for example, that AOL was set to be not very good in
terms of
|| usability/accessibility.
||
||  Cheers now.
||
||  Ian
||
||
||  http://www.bbc.co.uk/
||
||
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