[access-uk] Re: BBC Iplayer
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:11:04 +0100
Hi, As I said, an attempt was made on the radio list to get people to use BCAB
to co-ordinate this, but nobody did, so BCAB hasn't been asked to do anything
by its members. Frankly, if we don't support organisations, we can't expect
them to do anything. Organisations incur expenses and need people to join, and
one of the many benefits of joining is support on campaigns like this, but
nobody can be bothered any more, so organisations don't have the clout they
need to demonstrate numbers. You have choices, either participate and get
things done, do it yourself as an isolated individual, or shut up and stop
moaning. Organisations just don't magically do what you want, they do as their
members vote, much more accountable, so if you want anyy help, you know what to
do, join and raise it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Fowler
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 3:02 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Iplayer
Hi Ray,
You're absolutely right there. Where the difference here is though, is the
simple fact that the BBC is a public authority, this development and the
subsequent introduction of new applications is paid for by us as licence payers!
The BBC have a statutory obligation to comply with their due regard for the
equality of opportunity for disabled people, and I player as an application as
it has been introduced and currently is available does not demonstrate that the
BBC has in anyway complied with this.
Now, if the BBC who have a statutory obligation to comply with legislation
and don't bother, what message does that send out to application developers
working in the private sector?
This is a golden opportunity for those people disadvantaged by inaccessible
applications to make a statement. We are not prepared to put up with this
discriminatory behaviour any longer!
So who's going to support this? individuals? the BCAB? the BCS?
----- Original Message -----
From: Rays Home
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Iplayer
Well Colin, yu've managed to find something at BCAB! I've just searched
through this month's archive and didn't encounter anything about the new
IPlayer.
There is of course no defence of the IPlayer as it stands but so many large
companies just never ever seem to integrate accessability into the design of
software and websites. It always seems to be that occasionally something gets
done, and then the issue is forgotten about and hasn't made its way into
general practice of developer teams.
I've no idea wether Ulie Schiller is VI or not; most likely not even
though there are VI software writers in the mainstream if very rarely.
Cheers,
Ray.
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Fowler
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Iplayer
Hmmmmmm, and is Julie Shiller a screen reader user? Not another sighted
person that uses a screen reader from a sighted
persons perspective of testing applications?
Eric Hugger is the head of future media and technology and Andrea
Kalander the head of diversity, I think that we should be petitioning people
with that seniority for improvements, after all they are answerable for any
infringements to accessibility and equality.
I've viewed the BCAB archive on the I Player thread, and apart from one
message that demonstrated just what and how systemic the problem at the BBC is,
there didn't seem to be anything of any more interest.
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