[Wittrs] What would Wittgenstein have said?

  • From: "SWM" <SWMirsky@xxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 00:13:28 -0000

It seems to me that on a Wittgenstein list we have been somehow hijacked by an 
approach to philosophy that seems to be very unWittgensteinian. As I have said 
in the past, I don't think we ought to be slaves to Wittgeinsteinian ideas but, 
rather open, to all ideas (at least to consider them on the merits), nor do I 
think we should simply abandon traditional philosophy because Wittgenstein, in 
some of his more assertive moments, proclaimed that classical philosophy had 
gone the way of the dodo once one undertook to think of philosophical issues as 
he did. In fact, I think he was somewhat right about it though. Much of what 
philosophers of a traditional bent expend their energy on is stuff Wittgenstein 
would probably have looked askance at.

Our ongoing debates about the relative merits of Searle's and Dennett's views 
of consciousness, and the ideas of others (like Chalmers, Strawson, Fodor, 
Hauser, et al) often seem to be nearly pointless, especially when they descend 
into metaphysical disputes over what the world really is. Of course we cannot 
know except in a somewhat instrumentalist way (what seems to work) because all 
affirmative speculation, once we go beyond the hard sciences, is just so many 
ideas without a basis for distinguishing truth from falsehood.

Yet major thinkers in this area, like Searle and Dennett, both claim to have 
taken some influence from Wittgenstein. Wittgenstein's insights into how 
language works, especially his remarks on the impossibility of private 
language, have a bearing on questions of consciousness (though sometimes it 
seems recognizing the particularly difficult terrain of the mental landscape 
for language doesn't seem to have much impact on those of us keen to traverse 
it).

Would Wittgenstein have troubled much about questions of consciousness? Well 
it's fair to say he would have asked what we mean by the term in various 
contexts, how is the word actually used, etc. I think he would have done 
something much like Sean attempted earlier on in these discussions, i.e., he 
would have said that a lot of this debate comes down to identifying and 
clarifying the different uses we are each making of the terms in question 
("consciousness", "mind", "intentionality", "awareness", "understanding", 
"thoughts", "thinking", "belief", "feeling", "memory", "representing", 
"hoping", "willing", etc., etc.). There's plenty in the words alone to explore 
so why isn't that enough?

I think someone like Dennett is doing genuinely useful stuff by offering a way 
of understanding what we mean by "consciousness" that is consistent with a 
scientific worldview. It doesn't mean he's right except insofar as his approach 
coheres with that of modern science. He is saying, in essence, that this is 
what philosophy can do in this arena: show us how a scientific approach to 
analyzing what consciousness is all about could work. Dennett doesn't maintain 
(at least to my knowledge) that he is certainly right about how consciousness 
works. He only says he is right about this being a way to conceive of 
consciousness that captures and accounts for all the features our ordinary ways 
of talking about mind suggest are relevant.

Searle takes a more traditionally philosophic view with his formal argument 
from the Chinese Room (even if it is deeply mistaken on my view) but his 
approach, which does try to step out of the existing linguistic categories and 
modes of classification, also seems to partake of Wittgenstein though I think 
Dennett's effort is finally doomed by his attachment to the idea of 
first-personness.

Searle, it seems to me, has inspired a very strong cadre of believers and 
supporters but I am unaware that Dennett has done the same. On most lists I 
have found that Dennett is generally attacked while Searle almost revered. I 
find that especially fascinating since I think it's so clear that Searle is 
deeply mistaken while Dennett is just the clearer thinker. This has led me to 
think that the ongoing Dennett vs. Searle debate is at least in part a dispute 
between partisans (on at least one side). How would Wittgenstein have managed 
to stop this seemingly endless tussle? Could he have done it? Does his approach 
to philosophy enable us to find a way to cut the Gordian knot of competing 
belief systems in a way that enables us to "go on"?

If Wittgenstein's contribution to philosophy was as earth shaking as many of 
his admirers have thought, oughtn't we able to find something in his work that 
brings the endless arguments to heel? Or are we doomed, even on a 
Wittgenstein-oriented list, to simply soldier on forever with logical claims 
vs. claims about logic and metaphysical disputes about underlying ontological 
"facts"?

SWM

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