[Wittrs] Re: On the Experience of Self-Awareness
- From: "void" <rgoteti@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:40:29 -0000
--- In WittrsAMR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Joseph Polanik <wittrsamr@...> wrote:
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> Cayuse wrote:
>
> >Joseph Polanik wrote:
>
> >>if, on the other hand, you are claiming that there is no experience of
> >>self-awareness; then, would you kindly present your argument and/or
> >>your evidence for your claim?
>
> >Superficially, it seems that there is not only the experience of
> >phenomena but also experience of the experiencer (being conceived as
> >separate and distinct from experience). And now it seems that either
> >there must be another experiencer who experiences the first experiencer
> >(which leads us into an infinite regress known as the homunculus
> >problem), or else experience must be reflexive by its very nature. But
> >if experience were reflexive by its very nature then there would be
> >constant experience of experience, and that is not the case -- the idea
> >of experience arises only occasionally, just as is the case with other
> >ideas. Consequently, not only is there no experiencer of experience (if
> >we wish to avoid an infinite regress) but neither is experience
> >reflexive.
>
> you propose a false dichotomy in that you only consider the possibility
> that there is an infinite regress of experiencers and the possibility
> that experience must always be reflexive. however, there is at least one
> other possibility: that awareness of experiencing while experiencing
> comes and goes; meaning, that some experience is reflexive.
>
> consequently, your argument fails.
>
> Joe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> So there is awareness of experiences and I aware and then I am that
> awareness.Does it end here or proceeds further?This ideal concept is there
> especially in religious philosophy.
thank you
sekhar
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