(JPDeMouy) A last point. These approaches start from the idea that the believer and non-believer have substantive disagreements then proceed to show how what the believer has to say might be understood in a way that would be perfectly reasonable by the non-believer' s lights. That is one possibility, but Wittgenstein also wants us to consider another: that sometimes the differences between the believer and non-believer may run so deep that they can't even really disagree. (Gerardo) In which cases you think we could say so? (that "they can't even really disagree"). Could you give some examples? Regards, Gerardo. ========================================== Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/