... well, the penalties aren't moral. They really aren't "penalties" more than they are "pointers." So there is never anything to apologize for. Imagine someone saying to you, "your tires need air," when you couldn't see the same. You wouldn't say "I'm sorry." As to knowing when tires need air, very often you can't see this at all when you are in the car. You therefore need the pointers. Of couse, you can reduce the risk of preventing deflation in the tire. To do that, try not to drive over nails. Nails are little, of course, and very often cannot be seen. But you do have more notice in here of where nails are than you do out on the road. In here, for example, you know that a poster's capacity cannot be talked about, which means that even if a person hypothetically (or intentionally) makes dumb and silly remarks, one could never interject as a point of discussion that the person is being dumb and silly. This isn't because it would be wrong to do so -- a debatable point -- it is because: (a) it is irrelevant to the group; and (b) encourages replies of like kind. And so one thinks no nails are on the road, but after driving thousands of miles, the tire suddenly becomes a little low. And a good samaritan like myself simply points it out. The only purpose being charity and benevolence -- and, of course, continued safe driving. Yours in Goodyear. Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. Assistant Professor Wright State University Redesigned Website: http://seanwilson.org SSRN papers: http://ssrn.com/author=596860 Twitter: http://twitter.com/seanwilsonorg Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/seanwilsonorg New Discussion Group: http://seanwilson.org/wittgenstein.discussion.html WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009