[wisb] Re: Juncos (Oregon vs Brown Slate-colored)

  • From: "Tom Schultz" <trschultz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <heuers3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:36:18 -0600

In general, that is correct -- most of the juncos that winter in Wisconsin 
are likely "Slate-colored" Juncos.  However, some of the female (or 
immature?) birds that have brownish flanks (or rusty-brown) that contrast 
sufficiently with a pure gray (as opposed to a brownish or brownish-gray) 
hood are likely these "Cassiar" or cismontanus juncos.  The problem is often 
where to draw the line that distinguishes these from "Slate-colored".   In a 
case like this, where a suspected different subspecies is not distinctively 
marked, it is probably best to leave it indefinite and just call it a 
Dark-eyed Junco.

I think it's still fun to look at the variation that exists in juncos, and 
check for birds that might be strikingly different -- and perhaps contrasty 
enough to be called an "Oregon" junco or some other distinctive subspecies. 
If possible, it might be useful to obtain photos of such a bird for future 
reference or discussion.

Tom Schultz
Green Lake Co.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt Heuer" <heuers3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:31 PM
Subject: [wisb] Re: Juncos (Oregon vs Brown Slate-colored)


>I thought that the brownish juncos we see in Wisconsin were females of the 
>Slate-colored Juncos - the darker, gray/black ones being the males.  Is 
>that wrong?
>
> Curt Heuer
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