Bob's story of the couple counting caged birds reminded me of a story I was once told by a professional field trip leader (from one of the big 3 companies). It seems he had a person on one of his trips who would ask him whenever a new bird was observed by the group, "Did you see it well enough for me to count it?" Bettie Harriman Oshkosh At 07:31 AM 2/12/2013, rcd2@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: >Tom Schultz's question reminded me of an elderly couple I once met >when birding in >Arizona. This couple, when they traveled to a state, would visit >whatever zoos >were available much as field birders would visit sewage treatment plants in >various states. They would then keep note of all the bird species >held captive >there. In this way they had some of the largest state lists of >anyone in many >states. They explained that this was valid as they had truly seen >each of these >birds within the borders of each of those states. This is one of the more >extreme cases I have witnessed. > > I would say, for Wisconsin totals, that they should meet the > criterion that >the ABA sets. By these rules, Whooping Cranes at this time would not be >countable. Also exotic released birds should not be counted. Thus one would >not count a European Goldfinch at their feeder [though it would be >appreciated >if they are reported to the WSO as they are now likely reproducing >and we would >like to keep track of what is happening with them]. Subspecies should not be >included [though I would keep track of what subspecies one has seen as these >might later become species and thus become countable]. Also keep >track of ABA's >lumping and dividing -and set your totals by what the ABA has >decided in these >cases. Hybrids should not be included. As for rare bird finds that >have been >rejected by the WSO, I would leave that up to the individual and how strongly >they feel they wrote a poor documentation. > >The ABA is the American Birding Association. > > -- Bob Domagalski, St. Nazianz >#################### >You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin >Birding Network (Wisbirdn). >To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >//www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn >To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >//www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn >Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn