Except that graphics cards have got a *lot* more powerful. A typical graphics card today has 128MB VRAM and a significant processor. A mid-high-end gaming card, ATIRadeon 9600 has 256 MB SDRam, and a 400Mhz Processor, and moves data around on a 128-bit bus. That's a computer by any standard, albeit a highly specialised one. It costs me £65 - Probably $120, which is *not* expensive for what it is. Nick Smith, Managing Director, OfficeAnyplace Tel: 020 7819 0090 nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Martin, Eddie [mailto:EMartin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 27 October 2004 14:47 To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: new gateway tower I agree Sorin! Graphics card prices should come down to coincide with the decrease in cost of a computer itself. It's ludicrous, but they know they can get away with it because people like you and myself will go and buy it regardless.. -Eddie @ Bridgecom International Thanks for the replies everyone! -----Original Message----- From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:35 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: new gateway tower I haven't felt any real performance increase since I switched my 486sx/33 to a p3/500 and went from 64MB ram to 256... Recently I bought a new home (gaming) computer - an athlon xp 3000+ and had a athlon xp 2000+ before for a few years. The main performance increase was the ram speed, 266 vs 400. Other than that, no real difference. 8-/ The athlon xp 3000 will probably be the last 32b cpu based computer I buy. For me, as I do pretty much gaming at home 8-), the graphics card is the real bottle neck. The barely one year old ati radeon 9800 pro just won't cut with games like doom3... 8-( It also stinks, and sucks, that you have to pay nearly as much for a good high-end graphics card as for the whole computer... --Original Message Text--- From: Mauricio Fernandez Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:38:25 -0400 Message $200 for 0.2 Ghz? Hmmmm, lets see&.. Do you think youll be able to feel the difference between those two processors? (I am not!) Generally speaking, I just accept processors with 0.5Ghz or more difference to justify a price change. But remember that performance is no longer proportioned by processors speed. Computers performance depends on RAM amount and speed, amount and speed of Cache, HD Speed, FSB speed, kind of processor AND&.. Processor speed&. BW, Sorin > Sorin Srbu, Systems Engineer Web: http://www.farmfak.uu.se/organisk/ > Dept of Medicinal Chemistry, Phone: +46 (0)18-4714482 >> 3 signals >> GSM > Div of Org Pharm Chem, Mobile Phone: +46 (0)701-718023 > Box 574, Uppsala University, Fax: +46 (0)18-4714474 > SE-751 23 Uppsala, Sweden Visit: BMC, Husargatan 3, D5:512b > > Public PGP key available on request. > > () ASCII ribbon campaign - Against html E-mail > /\ > > Harmless tagline follows: > > BOFH excuse follows: Did you pay the new Support Fee? ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor StressedPuppy.com Games Feeling stressed out? Check out our games to relieve your stress. http://www.StressedPuppy.com ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor StressedPuppy.com Games Feeling stressed out? Check out our games to relieve your stress. http://www.StressedPuppy.com ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor StressedPuppy.com Games Feeling stressed out? Check out our games to relieve your stress. http://www.StressedPuppy.com ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm