[windows2000] Re: Thin Client Project
- From: "Sullivan, Glenn" <GSullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:26:13 -0500
I'm a big fan of Neoware Capio devices... I currently use Capio 610's
(CE devices).
I did have an issue with the one XPe one that we bought, in that EITHER
the onboard USB ports OR the onboard parallel port would work, but not
both. But I got around it (with a print server...) and ALL of the rest
are Capio 610 CE devices.
Actually, we just switched to the Capio One, but that's the same
thing...
Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA
David Clark Company Inc.
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From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Berry
Posted At: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:45 PM
Posted To: Windows 2000
Conversation: [windows2000] Re: Thin Client Project
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Thin Client Project
Hmm, multiple confirmations doesn't make me feel much better about it.
Does anyone use a terminal brand they like? (Neoware has been mentioned
by one poster, though I'd love to hear if anyone else is using them) I
had looked at the HP/Compaq ones, but they didn't seem that different.
Chris Berry
chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Information Advisory Manager
JM Associates
"If you have a strong enough why you can bear almost any how."
--Nietzsche
Grant, Lachlan ISMC:EX wrote:
> I would second that, management of thin client devices can be
> difficult for something supposedly simple.
>
> we use Rapport to manage 2000+ devices, and its quite limited in what
> it can do in a granular sense. Rapport is good for pushing out images,
> but i've had quite stupid and unexpected results from pushing out
> configurations even after thoroughly testing them on my test
terminals.
>
> our main problems with wyse are power problems, random resets of
> configs, and the keyboard and mouse will freeze up too, session is
> still fine though (excluding mouse and keyboard). which means the user
> has to reboot the terminal. supposedly these are all due to the power
> issues everyone seems to complain about with wyse. we've had multiple
> images from Wyse without any resolution of the problem.
>
> we've also had trouble with wyse terminals over wireless circuits
> where they would contantly drop out.
>
> that being said, the only other brand of thin client's i've used are
> HP/Compaq T20's. they were ok, but are now made by wyse i believe.
> i've never heard bad things about Neoware though....
>
> cheers,
>
> lachlan.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
> Sent: March 27, 2006 1:37 PM
> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Thin Client Project
>
>
>
> you will find thin client preferences to be pretyt much like
server
> preferences. It almost becomes a religious debate about who makes the
> best servers. We all know it's IBM, but some people, weirdos really,
> think it is HP or Dell.
>
> thin clients are the same. the camps are divided. I am sure
you can
> find someone who has a horror story from dealing with Neoware.
>
> a big thing to consider with thin clients is how to manage
them.
> They all have some sort of central management tool. some companies
> charge for it, and some do not. Some are complicated and require
> dedicated back end servers and databses. some can be run from a
> desktop. Some do both. Find out about managing them before you buy.
> All thin client manufacturers will send you a demo unit and let you
> run their management tools during the demo. Take them up on it and
> give them Pepsi challenge and see who comes out on top.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 3/28/06, Chris Berry
> <chris_berry-list-windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>
> Well that's pretty negative, I would have been
frustrated too. Has
> anyone else here used WYSE? I'll check out the NeoWare
stuff too.
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Chris Berry
> chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Information Advisory Manager
> JM Associates
>
> "If you have a strong enough why you can bear almost any
how."
> --Nietzsche
>
>
> Greg Reese wrote:
> > We had wyse thin clients at my last job for a while
and they were
> junk.
> > They would power off randomly for no reason. The user
would be
> typing along
> > and <boom> they were off. They would also randomly
reset to
> factory
> > settings. Following a long weekend, users would come
to work and
> they would
> > be back at the out of the box settings. Not all of
them, just a
> few. It
> > was maddening to support and after spending a small
fortune in
> shipping
> > costs to RMA one or two a week, we trashed them all
for Neoware
> thin
> > clients.
> >
> > Wyse said the problems were dur to poor power in our
buildings.
> they were
> > all built by the same company so i could accept that.
> They also said other
> > customers didn't report these issues. All i know is
we didn't
> have any
> > similar problems with Neoware thin clients. It has
been a few
> years but my
> > dealings with Wyse were not good and I will never buy
one of their
> products
> > again.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On 3/28/06, Chris Berry <
> chris_berry-list-windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:chris_berry-list-windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>What don't you like about them? I'm definitely
interested in
> hearing
> >>about any experiences with WYSE and their hardware.
> >>
> >>Chris Berry
> >>chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Information Advisory Manager
> >>JM Associates
> >>
> >>"If you have a strong enough why you can bear almost
any how."
> --Nietzsche
> >>
> >>
> >>Grant, Lachlan ISMC:EX wrote:
> >>
> >>>I would look at neoware too. I've only heard good
things about
> them,
> >>>currently working with the s30's and I'm less than
impressed with
> them.
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Chris Berry
> >>>Sent: March 27, 2006 12:20 PM
> >>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [windows2000] Thin Client Project
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Currently we're looking at setting up some thin
clients rather
> than
> >>>purchase more desktops for our call center staff. At
the moment
> we're
> >>>evaluating the WYSE S50. Not least of which because
of their
> unirail
> >>>mounting system which lets you do this:
> >>>
>
>
>>>>http://www.wyse.com/products/winterm/S30/BackMount.htm
>
> >>>
> >>>The other features seem spot on, and the price isn't
bad. ($337
> each)
> >>>This will all be set to use Windows Terminal Server
which we're
> already
> >>>using for our remote access needs. (salesmen,
telecommuting,
> etc.)
> >>>
> >>>Comments, warnings, suggestions?
> >>>
> >>
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