RE: Winam on a Mac [was "Re: response from FS regarding winamp scripts and windows 7"]
- From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:41:22 -0500
I think it's saying "Nullsoft", which is a division of AoL. Here's what
Wikipedia says at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullsoft:
"Nullsoft was sold to America Online on June 1, 1999, and thereafter
existed as a subsidiary of America Online. After the acquisition, Nullsoft
headquarters were moved to San Francisco, California. Nullsoft subsequently
released several new versions of the Winamp player, and has grown its
monthly unique subscriber base from 33 million users to over 52 million
users over the course of 2005. Nullsoft's San Francisco offices were closed
in December 2003, with a near-concurrent departure of Justin Frankel and the
original Winamp development team. Nullsoft is now a division of AOL Music."
--
Christopher
chaltain@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:25 PM
To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Winam on a Mac [was "Re: response from FS regarding winamp
scripts and windows 7"]
High Chris,
If this is true about Winamp, then why does it say, "Mysoft" when Winamp is
either being installed or uninstalled?
It doesn't say anything about AOL.
What's up with that.
Even when you first bring up the Winamp submenu, it says, "Mysoft" there too
as well.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <rascal0826@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: Winam on a Mac [was "Re: response from FS regarding winamp
scripts and windows 7"]
Nullsoft, who originally made Winamp was eventually bought out by AOL, and
to my knowledge, have no part in developing juice, or VLC media player.
In fact, I just did an internet search, and according to our friends at
Wikipedia, VideoLan is a project that develops software
for playing video and other media formats. It originally developed two
programs
for media
streaming
-
VideoLAN Client (VLC)
and VideoLAN Server (VLS)-but most of the features of VLS have been
incorporated into VLC, with the result renamed VLC media player .
The project began as a student endeavor at École Centrale Paris
(France), but after releasing the software under the free software / open
source GNU General Public License , the project is now multinational with a
development team spanning 20 nations.
As for Juice receiver, Juice is a
cross-platform
aggregator
application
used for downloading
podcast
media files, such as
oggs
and
mp3s
. These media files can be automatically copied to a digital audio player .
Juice lets a user schedule downloading of specific podcasts, and will notify
the user when a new show is available. It is free software
available under the
GNU General Public License
. The project is hosted at
Sourceforge
. Formerly known as iPodder and later as iPodder Lemon , the software's name
was changed to Juice in November 2005 in the face of legal pressure from
Apple Computer, Inc .
The original development team was formed by Erik de Jonge, Robin Jans,
Martijn Venrooy, Perica Zivkovic from the company
Active8
based in the Netherlands, Andrew Grumet and Garth Kidd joined the team
really soon after the first release.
So yes, the 2 programs are cross-platform, but neither are made by
Nullsoft/aol.
At 09:06 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote:
>I didn't realize the people that make Winamp also made the Juice
>podcatcher and the VLC media player. I'm actually surprised to hear
>this because I thought Winamp came from AoL, and I didn't realize Juice
>and VLC did as well. Interesting too since winamp is also a podcatcher
>and of course a media player. I've played around with Juice and VLC,
>and I never noticed they also supported the Mac, although since I'm not
>a Mac user, I never looked for that.
>
>According to the Winamp FAQ at http://www.winamp.com/help/FAQ, there
>doesn't seem to be a Mac version of Winamp. All of the requirements
>just refer to different versions of Windows.
>
>Even if there were, voiceOver would have to work better with Winamp
>than it does with iTunes to make it a viable option, at least if I were
>driving a Mac, and given that voiceOver and iTunes are both Apple
>products, again, I'd be surprised if the voiceOver/Winamp combination
>would come out ahead. All speculation on my part though! :-)
>
>--
>Christopher
>chaltain@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:48 PM
>To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Winam on a Mac [was "Re: response from FS regarding winamp
>scripts and windows 7"]
>
>High Chris,
>Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>But doesn't the people that make Winamp make software that can run on
>any platform?
>I know this to be true about their Juice podcaster and their VLC media
>player, why not Winamp for Mack's?
>My best regards.
> John.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Skarstad" <rascal0826@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Winam on a Mac [was "Re: response from FS regarding winamp
>scripts and windows 7"]
>
>
>This is correct! iTunes 9.1 is completely accessible with voiceOver,
>so you'd be going through a whole lot o extra steps. It's not Winamp,
>but that's the whole reason you'd switch to a mac in the first place.
>You have to throw out everything you know using Windows and start
>fresh. You could use something like Bootcamp or VM ware fusion and run
>windows on it, but I think that's just for people who want the
>convenience of having a duel boot system.
>So if you're gonna go with a mac, seriously stick to iTunes.
>
>
>
>
>At 06:27 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote:
> >I don't want to question why anyone would want to run Winamp on a
> >Mac, especially on a Winamp list, but I would guess that Macs
> >probably come with
>
> >a pretty nice media player that works pretty well with VoiceOver. I'd
> >suggest checking out iTunes on the Mac before going down the path of
> >trying
>
> >to get Winamp and a Windows screen reader to run in a virtual Windows
> >box.
> >If you're going to go to that effort then I wonder if you wouldn't be
> >losing the benefits of cuttng over to a Mac in the first place.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Christopher
> >chaltain@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >On 4/7/2010 4:46 PM, Steve Zielinski wrote:
> >>Wouldn't you still need to have a screen reader installed? In other
> >>words, you run the windows programs on the Mac, but you need a
> >>windows screen reader like window-EEyes, Jaws or system access to
> >>actually be able
>
> >>to interact with the windows environment on the mac.
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
> >><christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:26 AM
> >>Subject: Re: response from FS regarding winamp scripts and windows 7
> >>
> >>
> >>>As Winamp is a Windows application, then the only way to run Winamp
> >>>is to
>
> >>>either install Windows using Bootcamp or inside a virtual machine
> >>>like VMware Fusion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Chris Hallsworth
> >>>E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Skype: chrishallsworth7266
> >>>Twitter: www.twitter.com/christopherh40
> >>>
> >>>On 07/04/2010 17:20, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
> >>>>High Chris,
> >>>>I am thinking about getting a Mackintosh computer.
> >>>>Is there a chance that Winamp mite be able to run on Mack systems?
> >>>>Thinks in advance.
> >>>>My best regards.
> >>>>John.
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad"
> >>>><rascal0826@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:27 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: response from FS regarding winamp scripts and windows
> >>>>7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>It just seems to me that if they knew there was an issue with
> >>>>Winamp, arguably one of the more popular programs with users of
> >>>>JAWS, that they should've waited to release the program when those
> >>>>bugs were squashed. It's probably no secret to any of you guys who
> >>>>know me, personally that I've switched to Window-eyes, and am very
> >>>>glad I did. I know that's not something everyone can do, but for
> >>>>those who can, Jeff Bishop's Winamp scripts are absolutely
> >>>>amazing!
> >>>>I do have a workaround though, especially for you guys using JAWS
> >>>>11, until FS gets the update released.
> >>>>Give, http://www.satogo.com a try. It's absolutely free, and the
> >>>>awesome thing is in this case, you don't necessarily get what you
> >>>>pay for. You can use all the popular windows programs that
> >>>>everyone's used to using, and it works really well. It's meant to
> >>>>be more of a portable, on the go solution, like if you're at
> >>>>someone's house who doesn't have screenreading software installed,
> >>>>all you do is visit the website, follow the spoken instructions,
> >>>>log in and you're in business. It seems to work with Winamp pretty
> >>>>well, under all the popular versions of windows. I'm still using
> >>>>xp but I've heard from others using win 7 both 32 and 64 bit that
> >>>>it works well with those as well. So if you're stuck and need
> >>>>something to use while you wait for the JAWS update, give that a
> >>>>try.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>At 10:50 AM 4/2/2010, you wrote:
> >>>>>well, it certainly seems that way. Now all we have to do is play
> >>>>>the hurry up and wait game
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>From: "chris hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 5:01 AM
> >>>>>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>Subject: Re: response from FS regarding winamp scripts and
> >>>>>windows 7
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Woohoo! So hopefully I'll be able to fully use Winamp in the
> >>>>>>next update for 64 bit!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Chris Hallsworth
> >>>>>>E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>Skype: chrishallsworth7266
> >>>>>>Twitter: www.twitter.com/christopherh40
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On 02/04/2010 06:52, Robert Robinson wrote:
> >>>>>>>Ok, as mentioned before, I have received a response back from
> >>>>>>>FS, and am posting it here on the list for all who are interested.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>********Beginning of message****** Dear Robert
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support.
> >>>>>>>If you are using Windows 7 64 bit, there are known issues with
> >>>>>>>the JAWSR screen reading software WinAmp scripts that will be
> >>>>>>>addressed in an update due to be released soon. If you are
> >>>>>>>using the 32 bit version of Windows 7, let me know because I
> >>>>>>>will need to perform additional research pertaining to your issue.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to
> >>>>>>>this matter when replying to this message so that we might
> >>>>>>>better assist you.
> >>>>>>>******End of message******
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Robert Robinson
>
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