Welcome to Microsoft. It's probably something you'll need to set for the LI portion of the unordered lists. I'd not do it inline but would, if possible, add a small chunk of stylesheet code right above the UL (since you seem able to code that bit) then tag the UL and style the UL and elements within it. For me, at least, spacing of UL and LI is a crapshoot to style. I always have to tweak because the way IE calculates appears different from FF and Safari. I tested the page in IE6 and 7, FF, and Safari 3 (Windows) and only the IE browsers miss the left spacing and thereby the bullets. Tim RedWrangler.com -----Original Message----- From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Otto Avila Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:32 AM To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [webproducers] IE and Margins Hello everyone! The site I'm currently working on has a horrible css stylesheet that I can't access - the backend is proprietary coldfusion and they won't allow us to modify the CSS file in which a programmer has decided to zero out all margins For everything, but specifically for <UL> lists So that on this page: http://www.mywinesdirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=itemdetail&item_id_int =15953&category_id_int=15095 the bulleted list will look fine on Firefox, but on IE, no bullets show up at all I even tried adding in this style to the UL <ul style="margin:1.0em 0 1 3.0em; line-height:16px;"> But that doesn't work on IE either Any thoughts? L thanks, -Otto Avila http://www.mywinesdirect.com <http://www.mywinesdirect.com/> -- Check out the Web Producers Job Board http://jobs.webproducers.org Messages are archived in our publicly accessible web archive. Trim your posts and delete personal information if you do not want them in the public web archive. To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (and be sure to reply to the confirmation e-mail) Manage your subscripton (digest, vacation mode, unsubscribe) at http://webproducers.org/join.html -- Check out the Web Producers Job Board http://jobs.webproducers.org Messages are archived in our publicly accessible web archive. Trim your posts and delete personal information if you do not want them in the public web archive. To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (and be sure to reply to the confirmation e-mail) Manage your subscripton (digest, vacation mode, unsubscribe) at http://webproducers.org/join.html