[vip_students] Re: "read-editt"

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:09:13 +0100

Francis,
For whatever reason the specific search functionality with dates, counties and towns, on rip.ie doesn't work properly with JAWS, i.e., you can't use all the criteria at once - your selections seem to get unselected when you do the 'search'. It is a job for CFIT at www.cfit.ie >, I would think. (this is apart from the read/edit issue mentioned by Tony, which is another problem.) I experienced similar problems with both Firefox 3.5 and Internet Explorer 8. (The form misbeahaves somewhat.)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis Kane" <Francis.Kane@xxxxxxx> 
To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:43 AM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: "read-editt"



Hi Tony,

I don't know if it helps but if you go to the Irish Examiner link on
http://easylinks.yolasite.com/ there's a link to their death notices
which is very accessible but it may not list the details you need. I
know the Examiner focuses quite a bit on the south of the country so I'm 
not sure if the details you need are there. rip.ie is a very good site
so it would be great to see if it could be tweaked so it's fully
accessible.

All the best,

Francis.

-----Original Message-----

From: "Tony Sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx>

To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:25:56 +0100
Subject: [vip_students] Re: "read-editt"


Ah Flor,

It was a good sighted friend,  (no, not fiend)!

It's another example of a website being unaccessible then!
In all fairness probably just a small bit of improvement needed really! 

Oh,  CFIT sort them out will you!

Thanks

Tony
----- Original Message ----- From: Flor Lynch 
  To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:28 PM
  Subject: [vip_students] Re: "read-editt"


  Hi Tony,

  The thing is, you're not supposed to type in there, thus the
'read-only
  edit' meaning that the selection from which you must choose is
already
  listed there.  Then there are the .. buttons.  they seem to move
backwards (I think, so there is a date from list and a date to list. 
  JAWS doesn't read this side of the page consistently, so it's
awkward.
  Maybe there's some funky javascript or automatic page refreshing
(which
  we're not told about) going on with it.  It's a bit non-standard,
  putting it kindly.  Fortunately, this page is not typical of most
searchable pages we might normally use. A simple search (i..e, from 
one
date to another, and within a town) might work. I tried one, but was 
  'thrown out' more or less, and got 0 results where I know there
should
  have been one.  Rip into whoever it was that recommended you this
site!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx> 
  To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:39 PM
  Subject: [vip_students] Re: "read-editt"


  Hi Flor,

  I read the 'how to use this website's  page alright.

  I was checking for information on a former workcolleague's passing

  www.rip.ie

  without being gloomy about it.

  Why does it say "read only, edit" if you must type in there?

  I typed dates there but no joy!

  Tony
----- Original Message ----- From: Flor Lynch 
    To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:01 AM
    Subject: [vip_students] Re: "read-editt"


    Tony,

    That depends on the Web site.  If we knew the identity, we'd be
able
  to
say what is probably being looked for. Also pay attention to what 
    preceded the form - there may be a list of particulars provided
which
are later to be filled in by you. I turn Forms Mode off by tapping 
  the
    PC cursor, and then i down arrow, etc.  This can result in more
    information being given than may be the case when you leave Forms
Mode
    on.  If it isn't clear the first time, read the page a few more
times
until it does become clearer. Don't be afraid to route JAWS cursor 
to
    PC cursor and the likes, when in doubt or difficulty.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx> 
    To: "students list" <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:30 AM
    Subject: [vip_students] "read-editt"


    > Hi All,
    >
> Now when I go on to certain websites which have a form field I 
am
    > asked for say the surname and then the county, which is no
problem,
    > but then I go down to where it says:
    >
    > "Read only, edit".
    >
    > Wonder what "read only, edit" is all about and what should be
done
    > then?
    >
> I do the forms mode thing so am then expected to input something. 
    >
> You don't obviously read in there but are expected to type or you 
    > won't indeed generate a result!
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Tony
    >
    >






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